From rowen at berbee.com  Tue Aug  1 23:03:33 2000
From: rowen at berbee.com (Mike Rowen)
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 23:03:33 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Gcombust
Message-ID: <39879D95.FEA0D552@berbee.com>

I just successfully burned my first CD-RW tonight with Gcombust. Is
anyone else using this? It supports writing directly from files, but so
far I have only been able to successfully burn from an image file that I
created on disk. If anyone else is using this and can give me any tips,
I appreciate it. The newest version of Gcombust requires version 1.9 or
later of cdrecord.  Is anyone using a CD to perform system backups? If
so, what utility are you using and how successful has it been?

Cheers,
-Mike Rowen
<rowen at berbee.com>






From admin at madtimes.com  Thu Aug  3 09:23:06 2000
From: admin at madtimes.com (Timm Murray)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:23:06 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] fsck is fscked
References: <000701bffa77$2342dd20$b2c9a6d0@tds.net> <877la3rxvz.fsf@strider.rivendell.net>
Message-ID: <007501bffd56$583d7260$79c9a6d0@tds.net>

> "Timm Murray" <admin at madtimes.com> writes:
>
> > I'm wondering if it's safe to just ignore the message (this partition
will
> > be holding all of our files for laying out the newspaper, e.g.,
QuarkXpress
> > files, pictures, text files, etc., so I'm worried about this).  Would it
be
> > better to send the thing back to Dell and ask for a new hard drive?  Or
is
> > there a way to fix it?
>
> I'd suggest trying reiserfs, as long as you're using 2.2.x kernels.
> You have to install it as a kernel patch (I think it will be part of
> the kernel in 4.x), but installing onto Potato is now a FAQ on the
> reiser web site.  http://devlinux.com/projects/reiserfs/

Thanks for the info.  After browsing that site, I came to a document saying
that Linux < 2.2.13 (or was it 14?) couldn't handle drives over 32 GB.
Since its a 45 GB drive (with the problem partition taking up the last
section of that), and the server was using the 2.2.12 kernel that came with
Debain, therein lies the problem.  I got 2.2.16 compiled and set up now.  It
worked perfectly (it still whined about a problem on that partition, but it
was probably un-fixing the faulty fixes; no problems have come up in
succsessive reboots).  Reiserfs is a journaling FS, right?  I may switch to
it later, but I have a few other issues to deal with first.

>
> Why reiserfs?  It's been used on drives and arrays much larger than
> you describe, in commercial applications, and it doesn't have to fsck
> on restart, even when it was powered off without unmounting.  It
> journals all transactions, so the filesystem can be restored to a
> stable state in very short order, especially when compared to fsck
> times on a large drive.
>
> I've been using it on one of my partitions for quite a while now, with
> no troubles.  Had to use reiserfsck once on it (universally quite
> rare) after scanning with development-stage SANE played havoc with the
> SCSI bus that my drives are on.  But even then, it worked quite well
> as long as I didn't try to access the damaged files.  Meanwhile, the
> ext2 partitions were fscking on every reboot.
>
> BTW, Wichert Akkerman (Debian PL) is becoming a semi-frequent poster
> on the reiserfs mailing list, and several other Debian developers have
> also appeared there.
>
> Jesse
>
> --
> I (finally) figured out why I use parentheses so often.  I have a rare
> gene that makes me inclined to Lisp. :-\ Why Debian?
> http://www.infodrom.ffis.de/~joey/Debian-Advantages-HOWTO.txt
>





From bwinkers at corp.gdinet.com  Thu Aug  3 14:14:32 2000
From: bwinkers at corp.gdinet.com (Brian Winkers)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:14:32 -0500 
Subject: [Madlug] WANTED: Someone to build a Linux System
Message-ID: <31E9219F414CD311A9A40090270E7B145DE018@exchange1.globaldialog.com>

I need someone to build a Linux system in a rather short time frame.

It will be used as a production Internet server.
I'm a programmer that needs more control over a server than I can get from
my employer.
There may be a need for occasional assistance after the installation, though
I'm fairly familiar with the basics of using the machine.

It needs:

Latest Linux
PHP 4.x
Apache w/ SSL
PERL w/ Apache MOD
SMTP, POP3 and IMAP
MySQL and/or PostgreSQL
OpenSSH
FTP

It should be pretty much free of extraneous apps and locked down.

I'd provide the machine, a Pentium II 350 w/ 128 MB SDRAM and 12 GB drive
space.

We'd like it done by next Friday to avoid having to do it on NT which I know
I can build reliably. 
Well, as reliable as NT gets which is the point of using Linux.

I need an estimate on the time and the rate.  
We can pay cash or trade for access to the server. 
It will be sitting on a 10 MB connection to the Internet. 
Yeah that's 10+ MB to the backbone not just the local Ethernet. 
I work for an ISP.

Excuse my post if this was off topic. I haven't been able to follow the list
yet, as I only joined today.
I'll tryto make the meeting Friday at Steep N Brew.

Brian Winkers




From yostt at mailbag.com  Thu Aug  3 15:24:55 2000
From: yostt at mailbag.com (yostt at mailbag.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:24:55 GMT
Subject: [Madlug] NDS for Linux
Message-ID: <200008032024.PAA31090@smokies.binc.net>

Is anyone there using or interested in using Novell's NDS for Linux? There was 
a very good review on this in last months "Network Computing"
magazine.






From billf at inxpress.net  Thu Aug  3 19:03:55 2000
From: billf at inxpress.net (Bill Fredrickson)
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 19:03:55 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Meeting Reminder
Message-ID: <398A086B.4D94BF2C@inxpress.net>

Hi Everybody,

Tomorrow's the first Friday of August, so Its
coffee and techno chat time at the State Street
Steep 'N Brew. We ususally gather about 7pm. Hope
to see you all there.

Bill



From liqwid at tds.net  Thu Aug  3 08:05:32 2000
From: liqwid at tds.net (liqwid)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:05:32 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Meeting Reminder
References: <398A086B.4D94BF2C@inxpress.net>
Message-ID: <000d01bffd4b$82669a40$0a01a8c0@tds.net>

Hi,   Fairly new to the list and never been to a meeting before.  I really
hope to make it tomorrow baring unforseen circumstances .

liqwid


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fredrickson" <billf at inxpress.net>
To: <madlug at madisonlinux.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 7:03 PM
Subject: [Madlug] Meeting Reminder


> Hi Everybody,
>
> Tomorrow's the first Friday of August, so Its
> coffee and techno chat time at the State Street
> Steep 'N Brew. We ususally gather about 7pm. Hope
> to see you all there.
>
> Bill
>
> _______________________________________________
> Madlug mailing list  -  Madlug at madisonlinux.org
> http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug
>




From rowen at berbee.com  Fri Aug  4 08:55:32 2000
From: rowen at berbee.com (Mike Rowen)
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:55:32 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] conf.modules and printing
Message-ID: <398ACB54.B1A992B4@berbee.com>

There are various modules that I load with the insmod command that I
cannot get to load via the /etc/conf.modules file. I'm running RedHat
6.1. Specifically, I want the parport and parport_pc modules to load at
boot time so that I can print. The man page (conf.modules) is very
cryptic to me and an example of a conf.modules file might help me better
understand the syntax. I know that I can build a new kernel, but I'm not
ready to dig into new kernel builds yet. I'm slowly getting my system
setup and I plan to build a kernel when I have successfully prototyped
everything using modules.

Also, does anyone know of any mailing lists or any additional tech links
to assist with printing? I can print OK, but the lpd spooler does not
seem to work as advertised with other machines. I also cannot find any
info on the /etc/hosts.lpd file. On other Unix systems, you can simply
put a "+" sign in this file to allow anyone to use your system's defined
printers. I have a print queue defined on my RH6.1 system and I cannot
print from another RH6.2 system. I get a message about authorization
being denied. I even attempted to add the machine to the hosts.equiv
file and still no luck. All other networking aspects work OK. Am I
perhaps running into a problem with PAM? I'm stumped and I have found no
info on the web. I have worked with lpd and printcap on other flavors of
Unix. I can't see that I'm doing anything wrong.

All feedback appreciated. I wish I were able to make the meeting
tonight, but I am otherwise engaged.

Regards,
Mike Rowen
<rowen at berbee.com>





From admin at madtimes.com  Fri Aug  4 09:19:36 2000
From: admin at madtimes.com (Timm Murray)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:19:36 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Samba issues
Message-ID: <004d01bffe1f$0510eda0$81c9a6d0@tds.net>

I have a Linux server at work that is running Samba.  It gets its IP off of
DHCPcd.  All the computers in the office are shut down at night except the
server.  In the morning, many computers don't see the server in Network
Neighborhood (a few do, most don't).  Then we restart the server, run
DHCPcd, start Samba, and all is well again.  While this works, I would
rather not have to restart the server every time.  Ideas?

----------------------

I have to talk to the admins running 127.0.0.1.  Their ping times are great!

Its almost as if its pluged right into my CPU!




From polsen at tds.net  Fri Aug  4 09:28:50 2000
From: polsen at tds.net (Philip Olsen)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:28:50 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] conf.modules and printing
References: <398ACB54.B1A992B4@berbee.com>
Message-ID: <002601bffe20$4f75ec00$0201a8c0@Letoile>

perhaps i can answer the first part about the conf.modules if i understand
correctly:

there is a bug (basically an installation issue which is corrected in RH
6.2 - in fact you can check in the 6.2 installation you have - and maybe you
have that the following is automatically configured in a 6.2 installation)
in 6.1
which prevents the printer from getting the printer to work. Enter the
following line should be in  the 6.1 /etc/conf.modules file

alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc

then you can use the printool to setup your printer. hope this helps.


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Rowen <rowen at berbee.com>
To: madlug <madlug at madisonlinux.org>
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 8:55 AM
Subject: [Madlug] conf.modules and printing


> There are various modules that I load with the insmod command that I
> cannot get to load via the /etc/conf.modules file. I'm running RedHat
> 6.1. Specifically, I want the parport and parport_pc modules to load at
> boot time so that I can print. The man page (conf.modules) is very
> cryptic to me and an example of a conf.modules file might help me better
> understand the syntax. I know that I can build a new kernel, but I'm not
> ready to dig into new kernel builds yet. I'm slowly getting my system
> setup and I plan to build a kernel when I have successfully prototyped
> everything using modules.
>
> Also, does anyone know of any mailing lists or any additional tech links
> to assist with printing? I can print OK, but the lpd spooler does not
> seem to work as advertised with other machines. I also cannot find any
> info on the /etc/hosts.lpd file. On other Unix systems, you can simply
> put a "+" sign in this file to allow anyone to use your system's defined
> printers. I have a print queue defined on my RH6.1 system and I cannot
> print from another RH6.2 system. I get a message about authorization
> being denied. I even attempted to add the machine to the hosts.equiv
> file and still no luck. All other networking aspects work OK. Am I
> perhaps running into a problem with PAM? I'm stumped and I have found no
> info on the web. I have worked with lpd and printcap on other flavors of
> Unix. I can't see that I'm doing anything wrong.
>
> All feedback appreciated. I wish I were able to make the meeting
> tonight, but I am otherwise engaged.
>
> Regards,
> Mike Rowen
> <rowen at berbee.com>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Madlug mailing list  -  Madlug at madisonlinux.org
> http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug
>




From rowen at berbee.com  Fri Aug  4 09:54:30 2000
From: rowen at berbee.com (Mike Rowen)
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:54:30 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] conf.modules and printing
References: <398ACB54.B1A992B4@berbee.com> <002601bffe20$4f75ec00$0201a8c0@Letoile>
Message-ID: <398AD926.B6F9A5B3@berbee.com>

Thanks for the feedback. I added the line that you suggested, but it does not
work. A message in the log says that it can't find module parport_lowlevel. I
can't even load parport from conf.modules. I'm puzzled. I can successfully do
this from the command line:

insmod parport
insmod parport_pc

but I cannot load these modules from within conf.modules.  I added a local
printer on my RH6.2 system, but it does not add anything to conf.modules. I
guess I can assume that parport and parport_pc are in the RH6.2 kernel already.

Mike Rowen
<rowen at berbee.com>


Philip Olsen wrote:

> perhaps i can answer the first part about the conf.modules if i understand
> correctly:
>
> there is a bug (basically an installation issue which is corrected in RH
> 6.2 - in fact you can check in the 6.2 installation you have - and maybe you
> have that the following is automatically configured in a 6.2 installation)
> in 6.1
> which prevents the printer from getting the printer to work. Enter the
> following line should be in  the 6.1 /etc/conf.modules file
>
> alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
>
> then you can use the printool to setup your printer. hope this helps.
>




From mtinberg at securepipe.com  Fri Aug  4 11:10:53 2000
From: mtinberg at securepipe.com (Mark Tinberg)
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 11:10:53 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] conf.modules and printing
References: <398ACB54.B1A992B4@berbee.com>
Message-ID: <398AEB0D.A891C9F5@securepipe.com>

A better bet would be to edit the /etc/rc.d/rc.modules and manually load
the modules that you need when you boot.  Also I personally think it is 
a good idea to remove the "rmmod -a" line from /etc/crontab (or
/etc/cron.hourly).

The main function of conf.modules|modules.conf is to provide aliases and
parameters
so that the kernel autoloader and scripts can work in a generalized way.
For
example you could alias the char-major-minor for /dev/dsp to the correct
module/driver for your soundcard, so the kernel autoloader knows which
module
is correct to load when /dev/dsp is accessed.


Mike Rowen wrote:
> 
> 
> There are various modules that I load with the insmod command that I
> cannot get to load via the /etc/conf.modules file. I'm running RedHat
> 6.1. Specifically, I want the parport and parport_pc modules to load at
> boot time so that I can print. The man page (conf.modules) is very
> cryptic to me and an example of a conf.modules file might help me better
> understand the syntax. I know that I can build a new kernel, but I'm not
> ready to dig into new kernel builds yet. I'm slowly getting my system
> setup and I plan to build a kernel when I have successfully prototyped
> everything using modules.
> 
> Also, does anyone know of any mailing lists or any additional tech links
> to assist with printing? I can print OK, but the lpd spooler does not
> seem to work as advertised with other machines. I also cannot find any
> info on the /etc/hosts.lpd file. On other Unix systems, you can simply
> put a "+" sign in this file to allow anyone to use your system's defined
> printers. I have a print queue defined on my RH6.1 system and I cannot
> print from another RH6.2 system. I get a message about authorization
> being denied. I even attempted to add the machine to the hosts.equiv
> file and still no luck. All other networking aspects work OK. Am I
> perhaps running into a problem with PAM? I'm stumped and I have found no
> info on the web. I have worked with lpd and printcap on other flavors of
> Unix. I can't see that I'm doing anything wrong.
> 
> All feedback appreciated. I wish I were able to make the meeting

-- 
Mark Tinberg <MTinberg at securepipe.com>
Network Security Engineer, SecurePipe Communications LLC.
Remember:  Wherever you go, there you are!



From mtinberg at securepipe.com  Fri Aug  4 11:24:20 2000
From: mtinberg at securepipe.com (Mark Tinberg)
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 11:24:20 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Samba issues
References: <004d01bffe1f$0510eda0$81c9a6d0@tds.net>
Message-ID: <398AEE34.9FC19FE9@securepipe.com>

First question, is the interface that the clients talk to the same one
that is 
getting its address via DHCP?  If so, I suggest that you don't do that
if possible,
manually configure the IP address or set DHCP to force the same address
every time.
It would make little sense (unless you don't have control over the
addressing) to
have your server IP address moving around all the time.

That said, can you access stuff on the server using UNC path names
(\\server\resource)
even though you can't see it in the Network Neighborhood. If so then you
problem isn't
nearly as bad as you might think, you can still access stuff even if you
don't have the
perty NetHood (and you can put a link in %WINDIR%\NetHood so that it
always shows up).

I suggest that you set the Samba server to have the highest OS Level,
and to be the 
Local Master browser for your subnet, as well as a Domain Master Browser
and WINS server
if you have the authority.  This prevents some of the infighting between
Windows machines
as to who wins a Browser Election and keeps the Browser cache from
randomly passing
around your subnet.

When it does this please check out the Troubleshooting-HOWTO under
/usr/doc/samba/docs.
It has a 10 step guide to finding exactally where your browsing is
breaking down. This
is HIGHLY recommended reading/doing.  There is a lot of good
documentation and sample
stuff that comes with Samba, and is worth a look.

At http://www.madisonlinux.org under the Minutes section there is a
presentation I did
on Samba that might have some resources you find useful.

Hope this helps.

NOTE:  The NetBIOS browsing protocol, like most automatic browsing
protocols, sucks and
is easy to break.

NOTE2:  It isn't necessary to reboot anything, if you really need to
restart things just
restart the effected service. /etc/rc.d/init.d/dhcpcd restart &&
/etc/rc.d/init.d/samba restart.

Timm Murray wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a Linux server at work that is running Samba.  It gets its IP off of
> DHCPcd.  All the computers in the office are shut down at night except the
> server.  In the morning, many computers don't see the server in Network
> Neighborhood (a few do, most don't).  Then we restart the server, run
> DHCPcd, start Samba, and all is well again.  While this works, I would
> rather not have to restart the server every time.  Ideas?

-- 
Mark Tinberg <MTinberg at securepipe.com>
Network Security Engineer, SecurePipe Communications LLC.
Remember:  Wherever you go, there you are!



From mtinberg at securepipe.com  Fri Aug  4 14:54:27 2000
From: mtinberg at securepipe.com (Mark Tinberg)
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 14:54:27 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Samba issues
References: <004d01bffe1f$0510eda0$81c9a6d0@tds.net> <398AEE34.9FC19FE9@securepipe.com> <000901bffe4c$f22f02c0$81c9a6d0@tds.net>
Message-ID: <398B1F73.8D5FA0D1@securepipe.com>

It might be more effective, and secure, to install a second Ethernet NIC
in the server and 
only connect the local LAN to that.  You can use an RFC 1918 address
(192.168.x.x) inside
and use the server as a firewall/proxy. Then you can bind Samba only to
the inside interface.
10/100Mbit ethernet cards run about $20-30.

I also have DSL from TDS Metrocom and have had the same IP address ever
since I started
the service (several months).  I don't believe they terminate their DHCP
leases unless
an IP hasn't been used for 30 days.

Annother diagnostic tool you can use is TCPDump/Ethereal or NTop.  They
will allow 
you to analyze the traffic as it passes on the network wire and see
_excatally_ 
what is going on.

Annother question, since you stated that UNC paths don't work, is there
any reason you can think of that would cause broadcast packets not to
reach
all hosts?  IIRC when you specify a UNC name and it isn't in the cache
or
known by the Local Master Browser or WINS NetBIOS sends a broadcast
packet
asking if anyone is going by that name.

If you are using WINS though, and your machines are configured with the
IP
address of the WINS server they should be able to resolve the server IP
as well as any active workstation as everything should register with
WINS
when it starts up.  Unless the WINS server IP addy changes (and you
would 
have to reconfigure the clients) the server IP should be resolvable.

Hmmm...


Timm Murray wrote:
> 
> > First question, is the interface that the clients talk to the same one
> > that is
> > getting its address via DHCP?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> >  If so, I suggest that you don't do that
> > if possible,
> > manually configure the IP address or set DHCP to force the same address
> > every time.
> 
> How can I do this?  BTW--we get a DSL internet connection from TDS, so I
> have no control over the DHCP server.
> 
> > It would make little sense (unless you don't have control over the
> > addressing) to
> > have your server IP address moving around all the time.
> 
> Thats what I figured the problem is.
> 
> >
> > That said, can you access stuff on the server using UNC path names
> > (\\server\resource)
> 
> No.
> 
> > even though you can't see it in the Network Neighborhood. If so then you
> > problem isn't
> > nearly as bad as you might think, you can still access stuff even if you
> > don't have the
> > perty NetHood (and you can put a link in %WINDIR%\NetHood so that it
> > always shows up).
> >
> > I suggest that you set the Samba server to have the highest OS Level,
> > and to be the
> > Local Master browser for your subnet, as well as a Domain Master Browser
> > and WINS server
> 
> Have all those except the WINS server, except maybe OS Level, I'll check up
> on it.
> 
> > if you have the authority.  This prevents some of the infighting between
> > Windows machines
> > as to who wins a Browser Election and keeps the Browser cache from
> > randomly passing
> > around your subnet.
> >
> > When it does this please check out the Troubleshooting-HOWTO under
> > /usr/doc/samba/docs.
> > It has a 10 step guide to finding exactally where your browsing is
> > breaking down. This
> > is HIGHLY recommended reading/doing.  There is a lot of good
> > documentation and sample
> > stuff that comes with Samba, and is worth a look.
> 
> Thanks, I'll be sure to read them.
> 
> >
> > At http://www.madisonlinux.org under the Minutes section there is a
> > presentation I did
> > on Samba that might have some resources you find useful.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > NOTE:  The NetBIOS browsing protocol, like most automatic browsing
> > protocols, sucks and
> > is easy to break.
> 
> Figures.
> 
> >
> > NOTE2:  It isn't necessary to reboot anything, if you really need to
> > restart things just
> > restart the effected service. /etc/rc.d/init.d/dhcpcd restart &&
> > /etc/rc.d/init.d/samba restart.
> 
> Good, I'll do that from now on.
> 
> >
> > Timm Murray wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a Linux server at work that is running Samba.  It gets its IP off
> of
> > > DHCPcd.  All the computers in the office are shut down at night except
> the
> > > server.  In the morning, many computers don't see the server in Network
> > > Neighborhood (a few do, most don't).  Then we restart the server, run
> > > DHCPcd, start Samba, and all is well again.  While this works, I would
> > > rather not have to restart the server every time.  Ideas?


-- 
Mark Tinberg <MTinberg at securepipe.com>
Network Security Engineer, SecurePipe Communications LLC.
Remember:  Wherever you go, there you are!



From dave.johnson at Covance.Com  Sat Aug  5 06:28:27 2000
From: dave.johnson at Covance.Com (Dave Johnson)
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 06:28:27 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Re: Madlug digest, Vol 1 #226 - 7 msgs
Message-ID: <s98bb414.055@madmail.truax.covance.com>

I am on vacation until May 9, 2000. For assistance, please contact Jim
Thompson.



From arzamendi at berbee.com  Sat Aug  5 10:44:29 2000
From: arzamendi at berbee.com (Peter Arzamendi)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:44:29 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] OpenSSH problems
Message-ID: <NDBBJDJFHKGNMDNIKHDPGEEHCEAA.arzamendi@berbee.com>

Hello,
	I just install OpenSSh. When I try to connect to my server from a remote
site I get "login: No such file or directory" and it disconnects me. I'm
using RAS keys to authenticate to the server. I have the RAS key in
$home/.ssh/authorized. Does anyone have any Ideas why I'm getting this
message and then getting disconnected?

thanks,
Pete




From dave.johnson at Covance.Com  Sun Aug  6 06:27:36 2000
From: dave.johnson at Covance.Com (Dave Johnson)
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 06:27:36 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Re: Madlug digest, Vol 1 #227 - 2 msgs
Message-ID: <s98d0561.096@madmail.truax.covance.com>

I am on vacation until May 9, 2000. For assistance, please contact Jim
Thompson.



From dave.johnson at Covance.Com  Mon Aug  7 06:28:31 2000
From: dave.johnson at Covance.Com (Dave Johnson)
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 06:28:31 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Re: Madlug digest, Vol 1 #228 - 1 msg
Message-ID: <s98e5734.061@madmail.truax.covance.com>

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Thompson.



From jluscher at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  7 16:24:19 2000
From: jluscher at yahoo.com (James Luscher)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 14:24:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Madlug] IBM taps Linux for watch, supercomputer
Message-ID: <20000807212419.1124.qmail@web119.yahoomail.com>

IBM taps Linux for watch, supercomputer 
By Stephen Shankland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
August 7, 2000, 1:35 p.m. PT
URL: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-2456857.html 

IBM is thinking big and small in its strategy for the increasingly
popular Linux operating system. 

IBM researchers have crammed Linux into a wristwatch to test the limits
of the operating system and explore ways people can interact with tiny
computing devices. In addition, the company is considering using Linux
in its upcoming Blue Gene supercomputer, according to Ambuj Goyal, vice
president of IBM research. 

Linux is a clone of Unix whose programming instructions can be
modified--which is the reason IBM chose the operating system for the
project, Goyal
said. IBM already is more committed to Linux than are most large
computer makers. 

"We're conducting research to test the capability all the way from
small, pervasive devices...to very large-scale petaflop
supercomputers," Goyal said. A
"petaflop" supercomputer can perform a quadrillion mathematical
calculations a second. 

The IBM prototypes are no ordinary wristwatches, however. On one hand,
they're bulkier, and the rechargeable lithium-polymer battery lasts
only two to
four days. Yet the watches have as much memory and storage space as an
older desktop computer. In two years, IBM expects battery life to
improve to
last several months, Goyal said. 

About two-dozen of the prototypes have been created so far. The watches
run on an ARM-based EP7211 processor made by Cirrus Logic and have 8MB
of memory to run programs and 8MB of flash memory to substitute for a
hard disk. The watches also include an infrared and wireless radio
connection
and a touch-screen display. The watch can tell time and has a calendar
and to-do list that can remind the wearer of appointments, Goyal said. 

The device is a way for IBM to develop several new technologies, Goyal
said. The company is looking to develop computing devices that don't
require a
lot of attention from the user, or a "glance-able interface" for
devices. The project is also a test case for what types of devices
Linux can be used for. In
addition, IBM is looking to develop power management software--a key
part of making highly portable computing devices. 

"This is an exercise in engineering. They're not going to release it
commercially at this point," said Giga Information Group analyst Stacey
Quandt. 

Linux has become a staple in servers, persuading not just IBM but also
Hewlett-Packard, SGI, Compaq Computer, Dell Computer, Gateway, Fujitsu
and
others that the operating system is a good fit for big hardware. But
making Linux operate in other realms is still a work in progress. 

Analysts are skeptical whether it's worthwhile to cut Linux down to
size for personal digital assistants and other devices that don't have
much memory or
CPU power. Other operating systems, such as Windows Me, are already
designed for that purpose, they argue. Yet several companies are taking
the
plunge for mini-Linux. 

Companies such as Lineo, MontaVista Software, TimeSys, TurboLinux, Red
Hat, LynuxWorks and others are working to get Linux into gadgets,
networking hardware and other non-PC computing devices. 

Big names are interested as well. For example, Compaq has Linux running
on its StrongArm-based iPaq handheld and has set up a Web site with
supporting information from Intel. 

"I think we are going to see Linux on cell phones, especially with the
Red Hat-Ericsson announcement," Quandt said. Ericsson said last week
that it will
pay Red Hat to create specialized versions of the Linux operating
system in several Internet-enabled devices for the home. 

Linux will be used on wireless devices as well, particularly with the
efforts of chipmaker Transmeta to spur use of portable Web pads, Quandt
said. 

Academic institutions also are interested. Wearcomp, a project at the
University of Toronto, also has produced a watch running Linux, Quandt
said. 

This is not the first word about IBM's efforts to run Linux in gadgets.
As previously reported, IBM plans to release power-management software
to the
open-source community. 

The company is also working on Bluetooth technology to enable wireless
networking, as well as speech recognition software for Linux. 

A voice interface is key to super-small devices. Just as Palm had to
develop a new interface with a stylus and a few buttons for its
handhelds, IBM
believes that wristwatch-sized devices will help gadgets take one more
step away from the desktop computer, Goyal said. 

IBM's watch is expected to be demonstrated next week at the LinuxWorld
Conference and Expo, but it's not the first time the watch has been
unveiled.
IBM showed a prototype of the WatchPad in June at PC Expo. 

The other extreme: supercomputers
IBM's upcoming supercomputer will use an unusual design, with 32 CPUs
packed together on one large processor chip. These 32-CPU units will
then be
combined in much larger numbers to form the whole supercomputer. 

IBM is considering running Linux on the 32-CPU processors, Goyal said. 

The company also is working on Linux-based "clustering" for its
Netfinity servers, he said. Clustering enables computers to team up so
that one can take
over for another that fails, or so that jobs can be shared among a
group. 

Before Linux, IBM's research group had lost its enthusiasm for
operating system work, Goyal said. Linux, though, is ideal for research
environments
because its open-source nature encourages innovation that's not hobbled
by licensing negotiations, he said. 

"More and more innovation in operating systems is coming from IBM
research," Goyal said. "We are trying to test the limits." 

=====
--------------------------------------------------------
James Luscher                         jluscher at yahoo.com
  Three rules of work:
    1. Out of clutter, find simplicity.
    2. From discord, find harmony.
    3. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.
                                      -- Albert Einstein

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From arzamendi at berbee.com  Tue Aug  8 08:37:11 2000
From: arzamendi at berbee.com (Peter Arzamendi)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 08:37:11 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Howto for SSH
Message-ID: <NDBBJDJFHKGNMDNIKHDPIEFBCEAA.arzamendi@berbee.com>

Does anyone know of a Howto for setting up and configuring OpenSSH? 

thanks,
Pete





From jiml at mail.slh.wisc.edu  Tue Aug  8 10:25:52 2000
From: jiml at mail.slh.wisc.edu (Leinweber, James (attachments only))
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:25:52 -0500 
Subject: [Madlug] OpenSSH problems
Message-ID: <F559319BE4CED011B6590060975E74D2B8861E@mail.slh.wisc.edu>

> From: "Peter Arzamendi" <arzamendi at berbee.com>
> To: "Madison Linux Group" <madlug at madisonlinux.org>
> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:44:29 -0500
> Subject: [Madlug] OpenSSH problems
> 
> Hello,
> 	I just install OpenSSh. When I try to connect to my 
> server from a remote
> site I get "login: No such file or directory" and it 
> disconnects me. I'm
> using RAS keys to authenticate to the server. I have the RAS key in
> $home/.ssh/authorized. Does anyone have any Ideas why I'm getting this
> message and then getting disconnected?

Hmmm.  It hasn't happened to me, and you didn't include much detail, 
so we'll all have to guess.  Two possible causes could be: no home 
directory for the user account, or inability of sshd to find /sbin/login.

So, starting with the usual simplistic questions, and working up:

A) Does the account you are trying to log into exist on the 
   destination machine?  [presumably yes]

B) What happens when said account tries a local login at a virtual 
   console - does that work?  Any error messages?

C) Following up on (B), does the stated home directory (in /etc/passwd)
   for the account exist?

D) If you start sshd by hand (as root), do things work then?  If you
   have "ssh" (client) installed as well as "sshd" (server), what
   happens when you do "ssh localhost"?  Note: before starting sshd
   by hand, you might have to stop the existing one started (indirectly)
   by init.  The point is an interactive root shell probably provides a
   different environment, including PATH, than init and rc do.  Write
   back if you need directions on how to do this.

E) Follow-up to (D) - is sshd configured to use "login", or to launch the
   users shell directly?  If "login", does the PATH setting sshd is using
   include /sbin, or wherever your login lives?  

   (If you have to, temporarily rename your sshd as
   "sshd.real" and create a 2 line script along the lines of:
		env > /tmp/sshd.env
            exec /.../sshd.real
   where "..." is replaced by the path to your sshd, to diagnose this.
   Pay particular attention to the PATH= line in /tmp/sshd.env.
   Yes, I know that output redirection is a security hole, as local
   users could conduct the usual symlink spoofing attack.)

For more focused questions, explain which version of Linux you are 
running, how long you have been administering Unix systems of any kinds,
where your sshd came from (version, and compiled from source 
or binary RPM or ...), and include your sshd configuration file.
The location of the configuration file varies; it usually lives somewhere
under /etc/, often in an ssh or sshd subdirectory of some sort, and may well
have "conf" as a substring of the file name.  If you installed a binary RPM,
"man sshd" should describe the location.  If you compiled from source, you
specified it yourself, at least indirectly; check your Makefile.

--
James E. Leinweber 
Information Systems Specialist - State Lab of Hygiene - U. of Wisconsin
<jiml at slh.wisc.edu>  465 Henry Mall, Madison WI 53706  +1 (608) 262-0736



From dave.johnson at Covance.Com  Tue Aug  8 06:27:23 2000
From: dave.johnson at Covance.Com (Dave Johnson)
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 06:27:23 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Re: Madlug digest, Vol 1 #229 - 2 msgs
Message-ID: <s98fa86c.082@madmail.truax.covance.com>

I am on vacation until May 9, 2000. For assistance, please contact Jim
Thompson.



From shoemakerted at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  8 11:23:05 2000
From: shoemakerted at yahoo.com (Ted and Robin Shoemaker)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 09:23:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Madlug] mouse
Message-ID: <20000808162305.6933.qmail@web3105.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,

I got a new mouse yesterday.  After unpacking it, I noticed a switch on
the bottom.  I can choose between MS and PC.  Anybody know what this is
about?

Thanks,

Ted

=====
Ted Shoemaker

PARENTING
is the radical idea
that children are worth keeping.

__________________________________________________
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From raven667 at raven667.org  Tue Aug  8 19:33:56 2000
From: raven667 at raven667.org (Mark Tinberg)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:33:56 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] mouse
In-Reply-To: <20000808162305.6933.qmail@web3105.mail.yahoo.com>; from shoemakerted@yahoo.com on Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 09:23:05AM -0700
References: <20000808162305.6933.qmail@web3105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20000808193356.A29630@raven667.ods.org>

This is for selecting the MouseSystems (MS) protocol or the
Microsoft (PC) protocol.  If it is a three button mouse the 
middle button may only be supported in MouseSystems mode but
I doubt that since the Microsoft Mouse protocol has been extended
to take care of more buttons and wheels and such.

On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 09:23:05AM -0700, Ted and Robin Shoemaker wrote:
>  
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I got a new mouse yesterday.  After unpacking it, I noticed a switch on
> the bottom.  I can choose between MS and PC.  Anybody know what this is
> about?



From dave.johnson at Covance.Com  Wed Aug  9 06:26:55 2000
From: dave.johnson at Covance.Com (Dave Johnson)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 06:26:55 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Re: Madlug digest, Vol 1 #230 - 5 msgs
Message-ID: <s990f9c2.050@madmail.truax.covance.com>

I am on vacation until May 9, 2000. For assistance, please contact Jim
Thompson.



From andis at medix1.xom  Wed Aug  9 09:39:02 2000
From: andis at medix1.xom (Andi Siahaan)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:39:02 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] CAnon LBP-8sx laserjet
Message-ID: <007001c0020f$973bd660$540110ac@ANDIS>

With Microsoft OS I can use this printer using LPT1. All I need to do in the Printer configuration I have to use HPLaser Jet III eventhough it is Canon. 
But In Linux don't have canon nor LaserJet III. I think I have to choose "LaserJet" option on printer list. Anyway, when I print it is all garbage. Anybody can help me out.
Thanks


Andi
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From srivasta at cae.wisc.edu  Wed Aug  9 09:53:24 2000
From: srivasta at cae.wisc.edu (Ranjan Srivastava)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 09:53:24 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] CAnon LBP-8sx laserjet
References: <007001c0020f$973bd660$540110ac@ANDIS>
Message-ID: <39917064.1F92DD2C@cae.wisc.edu>

Hi Andi,

    How are you configuring your printer?  If you use "printtool", there
are options listed for a few types of Canons and few different
HPLaserJet III printers.  At least that's the case with RedHat 6.2.

                            --  Ranjan

Andi Siahaan wrote:

> With Microsoft OS I can use this printer using LPT1. All I need to do
> in the Printer configuration I have to use HPLaser Jet III eventhough
> it is Canon.But In Linux don't have canon nor LaserJet III. I think I
> have to choose "LaserJet" option on printer list. Anyway, when I print
> it is all garbage. Anybody can help me out.Thanks  Andi

--
Ranjan Srivastava
Department of Chemical Engineering
University of Wisconsin, Madison
http://www.cae.wisc.edu/~srivasta
Phone: (608) 265-3781






From dxf at dewittross.net  Wed Aug  9 13:40:09 2000
From: dxf at dewittross.net (Daniell Freed)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 13:40:09 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] /var/log/ size
Message-ID: <3991A589.45BC0795@dewittross.net>

I have a question about something I just stumbled
across.  I'll try to keep this short.

When I setup a linux system I tend to make a
seperate partition for /var/log/ so that the logs
can't fill up the root partition and cause
problems.
I recently (just a few minutes ago) couldn't log
onto my machine using xdm because the /var/log/
partition was full (I could log on via the console
just fine).  When I went to clean up the /var/log/
partition I did a: du -h from /var/log/ and it
showed that I was using something like 15MB of
space.

Then I did a df -h to see how big I had made the
partition and how much space was free.  The df
command showed that I had a partition of 47MB and
I was using about 46MB of it, leaving roughly 1
MB.

My question is this:  why do the 2 commands show
different amount of used space on the same
partition?

Now that I have cleaned up /var/log/ du shows that
I am using only 143k of space but df says that it
is using 32MB of space.  I checked on a couple of
different servers we have, and they all show
similar results.  Does anyone have a clue as to
why this would be and where the extra 32MB of
space is?

If it matters I am using Mandrake 7.1 on my
workstation machine that I initially discovered
this.

--
Daniell Freed
Computer Services
Dewitt, Ross, & Stevens S.C.

He who fights with monsters might take care
lest he thereby become a monster.
And if you gaze for long into an abyss,
the abyss gazes also into you.

Beyond Good and Evil
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From Dave at weccusa.org  Wed Aug  9 13:50:47 2000
From: Dave at weccusa.org (Dave at weccusa.org)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:50:47 -0500 
Subject: [Madlug] CAnon LBP-8sx laserjet
Message-ID: <617166E1FBECD1119D980060974FBDF92C9D04@WECC-SERVER>

Go to www.linuxprinting.org.? Huge database of printers that work and which
drivers to use.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andi Siahaan [mailto:andis at medix1.xom]
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 9:39 AM
To: Madison Linux Users Group
Subject: [Madlug] CAnon LBP-8sx laserjet


With Microsoft OS I can use this printer using LPT1. All I need to do in the
Printer configuration I have to use HPLaser Jet III eventhough it is Canon. 
But In Linux don't have canon nor LaserJet III. I think I have to choose
"LaserJet" option on printer list. Anyway, when I print it is all garbage.
Anybody can help me out.
Thanks
?
?
Andi

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From admin at madtimes.com  Thu Aug 10 10:13:20 2000
From: admin at madtimes.com (Timm Murray)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:13:20 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Firewall
Message-ID: <000801c002dd$8c36bf40$5dc9a6d0@tds.net>

I'm starting to set up a Linux based firewall.  So that Internet use remains
unhindered, a second, older Linux system will be used to test the firewall.
Thus, I can set up all the rules for the firewall and all the other users
won't be bothered.  Once set up, its just a matter of switching a few plugs.
My question is, what kind of portscanning/attacking/etc. tools are available
to run on the test system?

----------------------

I have to talk to the admins running 127.0.0.1.  Their ping times are great!

Its almost as if its pluged right into my CPU!




From jluscher at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 10 10:22:55 2000
From: jluscher at yahoo.com (James Luscher)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 08:22:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Madlug] Linux beer hike - report.
Message-ID: <20000810152255.19535.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com>

The Wall Street Journal has published a report
on the Linux Beer Hike which you might find
an enjoyable 'break' in your day.

http://networking.wsj.com/SB96568011973065158-SB96568011973065158.html

=====
--------------------------------------------------------
James Luscher                         jluscher at yahoo.com
  Three rules of work:
    1. Out of clutter, find simplicity.
    2. From discord, find harmony.
    3. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.
                                      -- Albert Einstein

__________________________________________________
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Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.
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From raven667 at raven667.org  Thu Aug 10 19:42:44 2000
From: raven667 at raven667.org (Mark Tinberg)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 19:42:44 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Firewall
In-Reply-To: <000801c002dd$8c36bf40$5dc9a6d0@tds.net>; from admin@madtimes.com on Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 10:13:20AM -0500
References: <000801c002dd$8c36bf40$5dc9a6d0@tds.net>
Message-ID: <20000810194244.A23308@raven667.ods.org>

I recommend Nessus http://www.nessus.org as well as familiarity with
NMAP http://www.nmap.org.  And remember, setup a Deny all policy,
then start Allowing only the specific traffic that you require.

A good reference that is Linux specific is "Linux Firewalls" from
New Riders Press, and a good general book that includes great examples
of how each common protocol is firewalled is "Building Internet Firewalls"
from O'Reilly.

Mark Tinberg


On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 10:13:20AM -0500, Timm Murray wrote:
>  
> I'm starting to set up a Linux based firewall.  So that Internet use remains
> unhindered, a second, older Linux system will be used to test the firewall.
> Thus, I can set up all the rules for the firewall and all the other users
> won't be bothered.  Once set up, its just a matter of switching a few plugs.
> My question is, what kind of portscanning/attacking/etc. tools are available
> to run on the test system?
> 



From tim at madweb.org  Thu Aug 10 20:57:29 2000
From: tim at madweb.org (Tim Schaab)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:57:29 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Madlug] Lilo is being a <insert negative noun here>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008102052230.2767-100000@localhost.localdomain>

I'm running a duel boot system with linux and win 98 and lilo has been
acting up.  I recently compiled and installed the 2.2.16 kernel.  I have 2
windows partitions that are bootable, hda1 and hda9.  I have it in
lilo.conf for lilo to boot the windows partition to the hda1 partition,
the one with windows installed on it.  hda9 only has basic dos commands
available.  Lilo keeps booting to hda9 instead of hda1, even after I've
had lilo reread the lilo.conf file. Any ideas?

Thanks!

-- 
Tim Schaab
Mad.Web * http://www.madweb.org/ * Enter.My.World
 
Don't let people drive you crazy when you know it's in walking distance.




From raven667 at raven667.org  Thu Aug 10 21:27:41 2000
From: raven667 at raven667.org (Mark Tinberg)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 21:27:41 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Lilo is being a <insert negative noun here>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008102052230.2767-100000@localhost.localdomain>; from tim@madweb.org on Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 08:57:29PM -0500
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008102052230.2767-100000@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20000810212741.A24428@raven667.ods.org>

Only a few ideas, 1) Which entry in lilo.conf is first, by default
it will boot the first image unless you specify one at the LILO: prompt
when you boot.  2) You can specify the default image in lilo.conf, do
you have a default that you don't want.  3)  What is the bootprompt delay,
if you have the delay set too short you won't have time to type something
at the LILO: prompt when the system boots.\

Also you might want to make a seperate image= entry for your new kernel,
seperate from your old image so that you can choose which one you want
at boot-time, in case something gets hosed.

Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 08:57:29PM -0500, Tim Schaab wrote:
>  
> I'm running a duel boot system with linux and win 98 and lilo has been
> acting up.  I recently compiled and installed the 2.2.16 kernel.  I have 2
> windows partitions that are bootable, hda1 and hda9.  I have it in
> lilo.conf for lilo to boot the windows partition to the hda1 partition,
> the one with windows installed on it.  hda9 only has basic dos commands
> available.  Lilo keeps booting to hda9 instead of hda1, even after I've
> had lilo reread the lilo.conf file. Any ideas?



From bates at stat.wisc.edu  Fri Aug 11 07:30:09 2000
From: bates at stat.wisc.edu (Douglas Bates)
Date: 11 Aug 2000 07:30:09 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Lilo is being a <insert negative noun here>
In-Reply-To: Tim Schaab's message of "Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:57:29 -0500 (CDT)"
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008102052230.2767-100000@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <6r8zu4asku.fsf@franz.stat.wisc.edu>

Tim Schaab <tim at madweb.org> writes:

> I'm running a duel boot system ...

Interesting phrase.  Is the pun intentional?

(The usual phrase is "dual boot".  "duel" is pronounced the same way
as "dual" but refers to a battle between two participants -- as in a
sword fight or pistols at dawn.  I think the idea of Linux battling it
our with M$ Windows on a computer has a certain amount of charm.)



From jluscher at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 11 08:42:24 2000
From: jluscher at yahoo.com (James Luscher)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 06:42:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Madlug] Hewlett-Packard chooses Linux...
Message-ID: <20000811134224.29551.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com>

Having installed Linux on an HP computer - and having found
myself unable to get the sound card and/or modem to work
(Wintel 'standard' DSP for combined sound/modem functions
 w/proprietary firmware) - I spent a lot of time on-line
pushing HP (as a loyal former HP engineer) to release code
so that these devices could work with the Linux system.
Their corporate people had declared 'support' for Linux,
but the only offered drivers for Windows' flavored 
operating systems!  I am glad to see that they have taken
a more positive stance - under duress it seems!!

----------------------------------------------------------

Computing giant Hewlett-Packard on Monday will designate Linux as 
one of its three "strategic operating systems" and will add new 
products and services to support it.

The Palo Alto, Calif.-based company said the move reflects growing 
demand for the Linux system and should help its customers use Linux 
with more confidence and in a broader range of applications. 

"This was really driven by consumer need," said Jim Bell, general
manager of open-source and Linux operations at HP. "Linux is a 
tsunami that is overrunning the marketplace. It has spread like 
wildfire, and we anticipate this is going to accelerate." 

Linux joins HP's own Unix operating system and Microsoft's 
Windows 2000 as the company's third strategic operating system. 

=====
--------------------------------------------------------
James Luscher                         jluscher at yahoo.com
  Three rules of work:
    1. Out of clutter, find simplicity.
    2. From discord, find harmony.
    3. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.
                                      -- Albert Einstein

__________________________________________________
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From jschaupp at fnmail.com  Sun Aug 13 19:17:43 2000
From: jschaupp at fnmail.com (Juergen Schaupp)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:17:43 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] c++ jobs ?
In-Reply-To: <m13NZSJ-000IYWb@franz.stat.wisc.edu>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000813191115.00a48530@students.wisc.edu>

Hi,
we got a friend visiting us this week, who is looking for a computer 
job.  He has a BS in computer science, knows C++ and got experience working 
for a company that develops a CAD Systems.
Any ideas anyone?

Juergen





From mpulliam at itis.com  Sun Aug 13 21:22:56 2000
From: mpulliam at itis.com (MaryP)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:22:56 -0600
Subject: [Madlug] c++ jobs ?
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000813191115.00a48530@students.wisc.edu>
References: <m13NZSJ-000IYWb@franz.stat.wisc.edu>
Message-ID: <l03130300b5bd047d4379@[216.165.144.210]>

>we got a friend visiting us this week, who is looking for a computer
>job.  He has a BS in computer science, knows C++ and got experience working
>for a company that develops a CAD Systems.
>Any ideas anyone?
>Juergen


The Wisconsin Court System's Circuit Court Automation Program is looking
for someone to fill the position of Linux sys admin. This may not be what
your friend wants, but someone else who reads this list could be interested
so I wanted to pass it on. You should be able to find the announcement
wherever state jobs are posted. Deadline is August 17.

Mary P.





From herzog at uhhh.org  Sun Aug 13 21:03:02 2000
From: herzog at uhhh.org (herzog at uhhh.org)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:03:02 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Madlug] c++ jobs ?
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000813191115.00a48530@students.wisc.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008132055050.23591-100000@runt.uhhh.org>

How is he at UNIX administration (and/or UNIX development)???  Any
experience with solaris and/or AIX??


On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Juergen Schaupp wrote:

> Hi,
> we got a friend visiting us this week, who is looking for a computer 
> job.  He has a BS in computer science, knows C++ and got experience working 
> for a company that develops a CAD Systems.
> Any ideas anyone?
> 
> Juergen
> 
> 
> 
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From jschaupp at fnmail.com  Mon Aug 14 12:53:13 2000
From: jschaupp at fnmail.com (Juergen Schaupp)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:53:13 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Re: job
In-Reply-To: <m13OIQY-000IWVb@franz.stat.wisc.edu>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000814124517.00a4bcc0@students.wisc.edu>

>
>How is he at UNIX administration (and/or UNIX development)???  Any
>experience with solaris and/or AIX??

Unix experience?  Argh, I think I better had sent this to a *different* 
list.  He got all his experience programming on *that other* system.   I 
was puzzled myself, that  you do C++ but have no experience with Linux / 
Unix , but I guess the market for commercial applications still lies with 
*that other* system.

Thanks anyway,
Juergen




From shoemakerted at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 14 18:39:23 2000
From: shoemakerted at yahoo.com (Ted and Robin Shoemaker)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:39:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Madlug] hard drive
Message-ID: <20000814233923.29312.qmail@web3106.mail.yahoo.com>

It is possible to buy a 2-gig hard drive for $80, or a 10-gig drive for
$100.  I can think of a better way to price them ... 

Does anyone know where to get a hard drive that doesn't cost near $100?  I
need one that's at least 2 gigs, and costs well below $100.  If it's used,
that's okay with me.

Thanks.

Ted Shoemaker
shoemakerted at yahoo.com


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From herzog at uhhh.org  Mon Aug 14 20:59:26 2000
From: herzog at uhhh.org (herzog at uhhh.org)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:59:26 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Madlug] hard drive
In-Reply-To: <20000814233923.29312.qmail@web3106.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008142056460.4995-100000@runt.uhhh.org>

Here is a invoice for a recent purchase I made online:

PROD ID #1      : WDIDE-101-33-5
PRODUCT NAME    : Western Digital Caviar 10.1GB ATA-33 / 5400RPM
QUANTITY        : 1
PRICE           : $77.99 

--------------------------------------------------
Net Total       : $77.99
Shipping        : $12.00 (Ground)
--------------------------------------------------
Total Cost      : $89.99

This is from computer-x-press....
	(http://www.computer-x-press.com)


On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Ted and Robin Shoemaker wrote:

> 
> It is possible to buy a 2-gig hard drive for $80, or a 10-gig drive for
> $100.  I can think of a better way to price them ... 
> 
> Does anyone know where to get a hard drive that doesn't cost near $100?  I
> need one that's at least 2 gigs, and costs well below $100.  If it's used,
> that's okay with me.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Ted Shoemaker
> shoemakerted at yahoo.com
> 
> 
> =====
> Ted Shoemaker
> 
> PARENTING
> is the radical idea
> that children are worth keeping.
> 
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From hanelson at mailbag.com  Mon Aug 14 21:24:43 2000
From: hanelson at mailbag.com (Harv Nelson)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:24:43 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] hard drive
References: <20000814233923.29312.qmail@web3106.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3998A9EB.65EBCCE2@mailbag.com>

Hi Ted and the Gang,

You might want to check the listings at:

http://www.pricewatch.com/

There, you'll get a pretty fair idea of what a resonable price for any sort
of computer equipment might be.   You can even order online in many cases.

$80 is way to much to pay for a 2 giger.  Bet you can find a 2 gig drive  at
the UW SWAP shop for $10-$20 (Friday mornings ... Wright street ... just past
MATC)

Harv


Ted and Robin Shoemaker wrote:

> It is possible to buy a 2-gig hard drive for $80, or a 10-gig drive for
> $100.  I can think of a better way to price them ...
>
> Does anyone know where to get a hard drive that doesn't cost near $100?  I
> need one that's at least 2 gigs, and costs well below $100.  If it's used,
> that's okay with me.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ted Shoemaker
> shoemakerted at yahoo.com
>
> =====
> Ted Shoemaker
>
> PARENTING
> is the radical idea
> that children are worth keeping.
>
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From nsgabe at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 14 21:51:53 2000
From: nsgabe at hotmail.com (Gabe Westmont)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:51:53 CDT
Subject: [Madlug] UW swap shop
Message-ID: <F52B4BwOZxYS0qPzg9u000002c1@hotmail.com>

can you give me some more information about the UW swap shop time and 
location

thanks gabe
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From carder at cae.wisc.edu  Mon Aug 14 21:58:50 2000
From: carder at cae.wisc.edu (Dale W. Carder)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:58:50 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] UW swap shop
In-Reply-To: <F52B4BwOZxYS0qPzg9u000002c1@hotmail.com>; from Gabe Westmont on Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 09:51:53PM -0500
References: <F52B4BwOZxYS0qPzg9u000002c1@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <20000814215850.A3827@chaos.cae.wisc.edu>

Visit: http://www.bussvc.wisc.edu/swap/swap.html

Specificly http://www.bussvc.wisc.edu/swap/inventory.html
may be of interest to you.

-Dale

Thus spake Gabe Westmont (nsgabe at hotmail.com):
> can you give me some more information about the UW swap shop time and 
> location
> 
> thanks gabe

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From herzog at uhhh.org  Tue Aug 15 00:06:43 2000
From: herzog at uhhh.org (herzog at uhhh.org)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:06:43 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Madlug] Re: job
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000814124517.00a4bcc0@students.wisc.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008150005160.6869-100000@runt.uhhh.org>

> >How is he at UNIX administration (and/or UNIX development)???  Any
> >experience with solaris and/or AIX??
> 
> Unix experience?  Argh, I think I better had sent this to a *different* 
> list.  He got all his experience programming on *that other* system.   I 
> was puzzled myself, that  you do C++ but have no experience with Linux / 
> Unix , but I guess the market for commercial applications still lies with 
> *that other* system.

Maybe I should open this up a bit then....Is there ANYONE out there with
some decent solaris and/or AIX experience looking for full-time employment
in the Madison area??

(if so, e-mail me directly)


_____
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ZRXOA #1029		 but in humility consider others better than
herzog at uhhh.org		 yourselves."    -- Philippians 2:3




From jluscher at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 15 16:39:57 2000
From: jluscher at yahoo.com (James Luscher)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:39:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Madlug] News report on new Gnome development resources.
Message-ID: <20000815213957.351.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com>

It looks like some major corporate money is going
to go into Gnome, at the expense and confusion with
the new KDE(2) desktop/windowing program.

I wonder how this will affect Linux users?
(VHS v. Beta ??)

Wish I could be at the meeting tonight to discuss
this and hear other's reactions, but I'm helping
my son move into a new apartment.

News report on new Gnome development resources:
-------------------
A future version of the Gnome user interface will be adopted by Sun
Microsystems for its Solaris operating system, and Sun will contribute
more than 50 programmers to the effort to advance Gnome, sources
familiar with the plans said. Sun uses the CDE user interface but will
first add Gnome, then eventually make it the default. 

In addition, Sun's StarOffice package will be tied more tightly with
Gnome, sources said. StarOffice competes with Microsoft Office and
includes a word processor, spreadsheet, presentation software and
other office applications. 

StarOffice will adopt a Gnome technology called Bonobo, a
"component model" similar to Microsoft's COM software that lets one
program use components of another program. For example, an email
program could use Netscape's upcoming Gecko engine to display
email formatted in HTML. Or an instant messaging program could call
on the spell-checking component of a word processor. 

=====
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    2. From discord, find harmony.
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From jmjaco at home.com  Tue Aug 15 22:37:31 2000
From: jmjaco at home.com (Jesse Jacobsen)
Date: 15 Aug 2000 22:37:31 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Re: News report on new Gnome development resources.
In-Reply-To: James Luscher's message of "Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:39:57 -0700 (PDT)"
References: <20000815213957.351.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com>
Message-ID: <87sns5ev0k.fsf@strider.rivendell.net>

James Luscher <jluscher at yahoo.com> writes:

> It looks like some major corporate money is going
> to go into Gnome, at the expense and confusion with
> the new KDE(2) desktop/windowing program.
> 
> I wonder how this will affect Linux users?
> (VHS v. Beta ??)

I welcome it, though I hope the corporate contributions don't end up
mucking up the "libre" purity of the Gnome project.  Impressed as I
may be with KDE, I'm sorely disappointed at the incredible lack of
interest in resolving licensing issues that still exist, making it
impossible for a group who wants to honor the letter of all involved
licenses to distribute all the KDE programs alongside QT.  (See
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0006/msg02108.html for one
viewpoint.)  Sure, it may be picking nits, but who wants to eat Corn
Flakes when they're crawing with nits?  :-)  And besides, we shouldn't
knowingly abuse the freedoms our free software gives us.[0]

Actually, I don't prefer to use either myself because they're just not
snappy enough on my quickly-aging K6-333.

still-glad-i'm-not-quite-living-on-the-cutting-edge'ly y'rs,

Jesse

[0] I'm not referring to *use* of KDE, but distribution.  The only reason
Red Hat and some others distribute it (against the letter of the Qt
license, as I recall) is because they're willing to gamble that they'll
never be held legally responsible.  Instead of "What should we do?" they're
acting on "What can we get away with?"

-- 
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of
yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should
boast.
              http://members.home.net/jmjacobsen1/glc/




From hanelson at mailbag.com  Tue Aug 15 23:37:37 2000
From: hanelson at mailbag.com (Harv Nelson)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:37:37 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Re: News report on new Gnome development resources.
References: <20000815213957.351.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> <87sns5ev0k.fsf@strider.rivendell.net>
Message-ID: <399A1A91.B1F22F16@mailbag.com>

You might also want to take a peak at:

http://www.helixcode.com/

The "sawfish" desktop works well on my aging K6-333 and I like the weekly
"update" features.

Harv

Jesse Jacobsen wrote:

> James Luscher <jluscher at yahoo.com> writes:
>
> > It looks like some major corporate money is going
> > to go into Gnome, at the expense and confusion with
> > the new KDE(2) desktop/windowing program.
> >
> > I wonder how this will affect Linux users?
> > (VHS v. Beta ??)
>
> I welcome it, though I hope the corporate contributions don't end up
> mucking up the "libre" purity of the Gnome project.  Impressed as I
> may be with KDE, I'm sorely disappointed at the incredible lack of
> interest in resolving licensing issues that still exist, making it
> impossible for a group who wants to honor the letter of all involved
> licenses to distribute all the KDE programs alongside QT.  (See
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0006/msg02108.html for one
> viewpoint.)  Sure, it may be picking nits, but who wants to eat Corn
> Flakes when they're crawing with nits?  :-)  And besides, we shouldn't
> knowingly abuse the freedoms our free software gives us.[0]
>
> Actually, I don't prefer to use either myself because they're just not
> snappy enough on my quickly-aging K6-333.
>
> still-glad-i'm-not-quite-living-on-the-cutting-edge'ly y'rs,
>
> Jesse
>
> [0] I'm not referring to *use* of KDE, but distribution.  The only reason
> Red Hat and some others distribute it (against the letter of the Qt
> license, as I recall) is because they're willing to gamble that they'll
> never be held legally responsible.  Instead of "What should we do?" they're
> acting on "What can we get away with?"
>
> --
> For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of
> yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should
> boast.
>               http://members.home.net/jmjacobsen1/glc/
>
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From subb3 at attglobal.net  Thu Aug 17 05:11:24 2000
From: subb3 at attglobal.net (Subba Rao)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:11:24 +0000
Subject: [Madlug] PPP and ip-up
Message-ID: <20000817101124.D31129@attglobal.net>

My PPP connection is working fine. However, when it runs, it executes ip-up
script twice. I am not able to figure out why it is running twice. The man pages
for pppd did not help.
 
The log files show that ip-up is being invoked by pppd. Even the debug option
for pppd, reveals the same information in the syslog.

The following is the output from the pstree (executed in ip-up) debugging information.


 |-pppd(28274) -d /dev/ttyS1 115200 bsdcomp 15,15 connect chat\040-v\040""\040atdt1234567\040"CONNECT"
 |  `-ip-up(28299) /etc/ppp/ip-up ppp0 /dev/ttyS1 115200 172.227.51.108 172.97.214.34
 |     `-pstree(28303) -pa


 |-pppd(28274) -d /dev/ttyS1 115200 bsdcomp 15,15 connect chat\040-v\040""\040atdt1234567\040"CONNECT"
 |  `-ip-up(28678) /etc/ppp/ip-up ppp0 /dev/ttyS1 115200 172.227.51.108 172.97.214.34
 |     `-pstree(28680) -pa

Is my invocation of pppd correct?

#!/bin/sh

PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin

/usr/sbin/pppd -d /dev/ttyS1 115200 bsdcomp 15,15 connect 'chat -v "" atdt1234567 "CONNECT"'

Thank you for any pointers.

-- 

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From jluscher at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 17 11:49:50 2000
From: jluscher at yahoo.com (James Luscher)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:49:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Madlug] Pocket Linux -> PDA running Linux!!
Message-ID: <20000817164950.11674.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com>

One of the surprises at the Linux conference
is the announcement (which I previously missed)
of a new company selling a Linux based PDA,
for delivery in October.

Check out their web page:

http://www.agendacomputing.com/products/index.jsp

James

=====
--------------------------------------------------------
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    1. Out of clutter, find simplicity.
    2. From discord, find harmony.
    3. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.
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From jluscher at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 17 14:27:42 2000
From: jluscher at yahoo.com (James Luscher)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:27:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Madlug] iRobot - Linux powered telerobot
Message-ID: <20000817192742.16574.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com>

Thanks to my son (whose copy of Wired I looked at
today at lunch) I noticed that there is now a net-enabled
(telerobotics - mobile webcam?) robot out there.

Targeted at $3,500 it isn't cheap but it runs on
a Pentium class processor running Red Hat Linux
and with the Apache web server (and its own IP
address) linked by radio to the net.

Via a PC (net access) you can make it move, see
what is in front of it, and hear/speak with 
others in its area.  With 6 motors and 8 wheels
it can climb stairs, etc. - very mobile - and
can indicate its concerns via what the company
dubs "earcons" (think the auditory version of
icons) when you are physically present. 

It uses sonar for collision avoidance and sounds
like it is very programmable.

To check it out see:  http://www.isr.com/ir/index.htm

James

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    2. From discord, find harmony.
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From lgilles at lyra.ece.wisc.edu  Thu Aug 17 15:01:36 2000
From: lgilles at lyra.ece.wisc.edu (Luc Gilles)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:01:36 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Madlug] DVD / CD writer
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.1000817145901.23690B-100000@lyra.ece.wisc.edu>

Hi!
I would like to know what is currently available for
DVDs and a CD writers under linux ?
Thank you so much!
	-Luc





From jiml at slh.wisc.edu  Thu Aug 17 23:53:07 2000
From: jiml at slh.wisc.edu (James E. Leinweber)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:53:07 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Madlug] anyone using Oracle on Linux?  on SUSE?
Message-ID: <200008180453.XAA08821@slh.wisc.edu>

We're about to replace a 4 year old oracle database server (3 P6-200
CPU's, 256MB ram, 50-GB disk) with a newer, faster one (1 athlon-1000,
1.5GB ram, 200GB disk).  In the process, we're considering jumping
ship from NT (gimme a break, the sucker started off as a file&print
server) to Linux.  The OS that benchmarks out as fastest for our
application is the one we'll keep.  Naturally, I have my suspicions
about which one that will be :-) I have shiny new CD's of oracle 8.1.6
enterprise server for NT and for Linux.  I've used a variety of Linux
distributions over the years (going back to SLS, if anyone remembers
that), but I haven't tried SUSE yet.  So, a couple of questions:

Has anyone run Oracle enterprise server 8i on Linux?  How did you like
it?

If so, did you benchmark it against anything else?

  (See <http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/1665/1/> for an
  example of a company that went with Linux after comparing NT and
  Solaris.  Of course, with Larry Ellison backing them, they had the
  bucks to hire VA Linux to tweak things to their liking ...)

Has anyone used SUSE?  Particularly SUSE 6.4?  How did you like it?

  (According to the puff piece at
   <http://www.suse.com/suse/news/PressReleases/70_oracle.html>, 
   this month's SUSE 6.4 or next months SUSE 7.0 should be the best
   thing since sliced bread for running Oracle.)

-- James E. Leinweber
Information Systems   -  State Laboratory of Hygiene - University of Wisconsin
<jiml at slh.wisc.edu> 465 Henry Mall, Madison WI 53706-1578 USA  +1 608 262 0736



From Dean.Jefferson at oci.state.wi.us  Fri Aug 18 08:29:34 2000
From: Dean.Jefferson at oci.state.wi.us (Jefferson, Dean)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:29:34 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] anyone using Oracle on Linux?  on SUSE?
Message-ID: <832E8B37AD19D311839700508B2CF7D1EEA0C9@EXCHANGE>

I have installed and run Oracle 8.1.5 on Red Hat Linux 6.0. My first install
was on a slow Pentium machine, just to figure it all out. (The 8.1.5 install
had some glitches, but once I got it installed and the mandatory patch kit
applied it worked fine.) Then I installed on a Compaq Proliant with 4 250
MegaHertz Pentium Pros and a disk array. I ran our development database on
this setup for about 2 months with no problems.

I didn't get around to doing any real benchmarking, but Oracle on Linux was
at least as fast as Oracle on NT on the same box, with absolutely no
tweeking of the Linux setup beyond the Oracle recommended stuff prior to
install.

Dean Jefferson
Database Administrator
State of Wisconsin
Office of Commissioner of Insurance 
Dean.Jefferson at oci.state.wi.us

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James E. Leinweber [mailto:jiml at slh.wisc.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 11:53 PM
> To: madlug at madisonlinux.org
> Subject: [Madlug] anyone using Oracle on Linux? on SUSE?
> 
> 
> We're about to replace a 4 year old oracle database server (3 P6-200
> CPU's, 256MB ram, 50-GB disk) with a newer, faster one (1 athlon-1000,
> 1.5GB ram, 200GB disk).  In the process, we're considering jumping
> ship from NT (gimme a break, the sucker started off as a file&print
> server) to Linux.  The OS that benchmarks out as fastest for our
> application is the one we'll keep.  Naturally, I have my suspicions
> about which one that will be :-) I have shiny new CD's of oracle 8.1.6
> enterprise server for NT and for Linux.  I've used a variety of Linux
> distributions over the years (going back to SLS, if anyone remembers
> that), but I haven't tried SUSE yet.  So, a couple of questions:
> 
> Has anyone run Oracle enterprise server 8i on Linux?  How did you like
> it?
> 



From bates at stat.wisc.edu  Fri Aug 18 12:03:20 2000
From: bates at stat.wisc.edu (Douglas Bates)
Date: 18 Aug 2000 12:03:20 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] ["S. Johnson" <stevebj@inxpress.net>] help
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From CNieu at sauk.com  Fri Aug 18 21:57:00 2000
From: CNieu at sauk.com (Clifford R.Nieuwenhuis)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 21:57:00 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] kppp problems
Message-ID: <00081822074600.00848@Mercury>

After installing RedHat 6.2 (KDE Workstation setup), I find myself unable to
connect to my ISP using kppp as a normal user.  It asks for the root password,
which I provide, and then produces the following message:

Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
kppp: cannot connect to X server :0

I have checked the help files and such, but haven't found an answer.  There
seemed to be a lot of discussion about pppd having the proper privileges, and I
*think* I've got that part OK, but I'm still quite the newbie.

kppp works just fine if I run it as root.  Any help or suggested reading would
be most appreciated




From matt at kindjal.net  Sat Aug 19 00:00:47 2000
From: matt at kindjal.net (Matthew Callaway)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:00:47 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Madlug] kppp problems
In-Reply-To: <00081822074600.00848@Mercury>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008182359210.19984-100000@mystra.kindjal.net>

You are logged in as you, but you run kppp as root, which is why it asks for the
root password.  Then the root user (running kppp) tries to connect to your X
server to display a window.  X will not allow that.  Open a terminal and issue
the command:

xhost localhost

This will allow root to connect to  your X server to display windows, and thus
allow kppp to run normally.




On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Clifford R.Nieuwenhuis wrote:

> 
> After installing RedHat 6.2 (KDE Workstation setup), I find myself unable to
> connect to my ISP using kppp as a normal user.  It asks for the root password,
> which I provide, and then produces the following message:
> 
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> kppp: cannot connect to X server :0
> 
> I have checked the help files and such, but haven't found an answer.  There
> seemed to be a lot of discussion about pppd having the proper privileges, and I
> *think* I've got that part OK, but I'm still quite the newbie.
> 
> kppp works just fine if I run it as root.  Any help or suggested reading would
> be most appreciated
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Madlug mailing list  -  Madlug at madisonlinux.org
> http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug
> 




From hanelson at mailbag.com  Sat Aug 19 00:04:55 2000
From: hanelson at mailbag.com (Harv Nelson)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:04:55 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] kppp problems
References: <00081822074600.00848@Mercury>
Message-ID: <399E1577.8843829F@mailbag.com>

I had a similar problem with my 6.2 install.  If I remember correctly, this is how
I fixed it.  This is a quick and dirty fix that leaves security issues to rustle
in the breeze ... but if you are the sole user on your machine so what?

this comes from:

http://devel-home.kde.org/~kppp/faq.html

(at least that's what is scribbled on my note sheet)

In a terminal window (where you are logged on as root), issue the following
commands:

rm  /usr/bin/kppp
chmod u+s  /usr/sbin/kppp
ln -s  /usr/sbin/kppp  /usr/bin/kppp

close the terminal window, reboot your machine, log into your user account, setup
kppp and listen to your modem whistle!

Harv





"Clifford R.Nieuwenhuis" wrote:

> After installing RedHat 6.2 (KDE Workstation setup), I find myself unable to
> connect to my ISP using kppp as a normal user.  It asks for the root password,
> which I provide, and then produces the following message:
>
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> kppp: cannot connect to X server :0
>
> I have checked the help files and such, but haven't found an answer.  There
> seemed to be a lot of discussion about pppd having the proper privileges, and I
> *think* I've got that part OK, but I'm still quite the newbie.
>
> kppp works just fine if I run it as root.  Any help or suggested reading would
> be most appreciated
>
> _______________________________________________
> Madlug mailing list  -  Madlug at madisonlinux.org
> http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug




From stan.buskus at att.net  Sat Aug 19 05:10:15 2000
From: stan.buskus at att.net (Stan Buskus)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:10:15 +0000
Subject: [Madlug] anyone using Oracle on Linux?  on SUSE?
References: <200008180453.XAA08821@slh.wisc.edu>
Message-ID: <399E5D06.75229171@att.net>

I'm running Oracle 8.0.5 with RedHat 6.2 on a Gateway2000 200Mz CPU. I use it to
play with Delphi's Linux version of JBuilder. I never benched marked it
performance, but it has been reliable. However, my version is missing some of the
enterprise features such as replication.

Stan Buskus


"James E. Leinweber" wrote:

> We're about to replace a 4 year old oracle database server (3 P6-200
> CPU's, 256MB ram, 50-GB disk) with a newer, faster one (1 athlon-1000,
> 1.5GB ram, 200GB disk).  In the process, we're considering jumping
> ship from NT (gimme a break, the sucker started off as a file&print
> server) to Linux.  The OS that benchmarks out as fastest for our
> application is the one we'll keep.  Naturally, I have my suspicions
> about which one that will be :-) I have shiny new CD's of oracle 8.1.6
> enterprise server for NT and for Linux.  I've used a variety of Linux
> distributions over the years (going back to SLS, if anyone remembers
> that), but I haven't tried SUSE yet.  So, a couple of questions:
>
> Has anyone run Oracle enterprise server 8i on Linux?  How did you like
> it?
>
> If so, did you benchmark it against anything else?
>
>   (See <http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/1665/1/> for an
>   example of a company that went with Linux after comparing NT and
>   Solaris.  Of course, with Larry Ellison backing them, they had the
>   bucks to hire VA Linux to tweak things to their liking ...)
>
> Has anyone used SUSE?  Particularly SUSE 6.4?  How did you like it?
>
>   (According to the puff piece at
>    <http://www.suse.com/suse/news/PressReleases/70_oracle.html>,
>    this month's SUSE 6.4 or next months SUSE 7.0 should be the best
>    thing since sliced bread for running Oracle.)
>
> -- James E. Leinweber
> Information Systems   -  State Laboratory of Hygiene - University of Wisconsin
> <jiml at slh.wisc.edu> 465 Henry Mall, Madison WI 53706-1578 USA  +1 608 262 0736
>
> _______________________________________________
> Madlug mailing list  -  Madlug at madisonlinux.org
> http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug




From subb3 at attglobal.net  Sat Aug 19 08:20:59 2000
From: subb3 at attglobal.net (Subba Rao)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:20:59 +0000
Subject: [Madlug] Scrolling in xterm
Message-ID: <20000819132059.A3100@attglobal.net>

My xterm is version 4.0.1b(104). I have the scrollbar showing up on the left side
of my window. I am not able to interactively use the mouse to scroll back in the window.
A mouse click in the scroll bar will position the view in the scroll buffer. How can I
use the mouse button to move interactively through the scroll buffer (as in gnome-terminal).

I have looked at the Xresourses but nothing was obvious about the mouse key bindings.
Is this something more specific to the window manager or is isolated to the xresources file?

Thank you in advance.

Subba Rao
subb3 at attglobal.net
http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/

 => Time is relative. Here is a new way to look at time. <=
http://www.smcinnovations.com



From maynord at terracom.net  Sat Aug 19 17:07:38 2000
From: maynord at terracom.net (Robert Maynord)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:07:38 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Network printing
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000819170738.007a4240@pop.terracom.net>

Dear Madlug Folks in Madison:

I am working at a local parchial school, setting up a network with Linux
machines.  (Actually at this point, there is a mix of Linux and Windows
machines).  I am trying to get the Linux machines to print to a Linux print
server -- but so far no luck.  I could use some help/advice!  Here is what
I know so far:

1) Both the print server and workstation can "ping" each other.
2) They both can access the internet.
3) I am using static IP addresses. (DNS is disabled)
4) I have used the Red Hat 6.2 "Printtool" to set up the print server.
5) I have also used the Red Hat "Printtool" 6.2 on one workstation, and
xpdq on another - neither work for printing to the network print server.
6) I have included the workstation name in hosts.lpd on the print server.
7) When I attempt to print from the workstation, I get the message
"Linux-10:waiting for queue to be enabled on Linux-36" in the print queue
(Linux-36 is the print server, Linux-10 is the workstation)
8) The print server can print to its own printer, and can also print to a
samba printer.
9) The xpdq people say that xpdq cannot be set up as a print server, but
that lpd will work.

The printcap Red Hat created for the print server is:

lp:\
	:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
	:mx#0:\
	:sh:\
	:lp=/dev/lpo:\
	:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:

The printcap Red hat created for the workstation is:

lp:\
	:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
	:mx#0:\
	:sh:\
	:rm=Linux-36:\
	:rp=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\		(I also tried "rp=lp" here)
	:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:

How do I enable the print queue??? Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated!

Robert Maynord







From austin.kyser at worldnet.att.net  Sat Aug 19 17:03:24 2000
From: austin.kyser at worldnet.att.net (Austin M. Kyser)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:03:24 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Milwaukee Users Group Status?
Message-ID: <399F042C.524AAE2A@worldnet.att.net>

I apologize that this message may be a tad off topic.  But I am hoping
that someone might know the status of a Milwaukee Linux Users Group?  I
have found references to one in Milwaukee on several web sites, but all
links to a web page detailing such a group fails.

Any information pointing me in the right direction is greatly
appreciated.

-Austin
Running GNOME/Enlightenment/RH6.1
Oconomowoc, WI



From jmjaco at home.com  Sat Aug 19 17:12:48 2000
From: jmjaco at home.com (Jesse Jacobsen)
Date: 19 Aug 2000 17:12:48 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Re: Network printing
In-Reply-To: Robert Maynord's message of "Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:07:38 -0500"
References: <3.0.6.32.20000819170738.007a4240@pop.terracom.net>
Message-ID: <87sns0q4rj.fsf@strider.rivendell.net>

Hi Robert,

I'm using Debian 2.2, and have set up lprng so that my wife's computer
will automatically print on mine.  In case it helps at all, here's
her printcap:


lp|Remote printer entry
        :lp=
        :rm=strider
        :rp=lp
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote
        :mx#0
        :sh


Here's mine:

lp|lj|hplj4l|HP Laserjet 4L:\
        :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hplj4l:\
        :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
        :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter:\
        :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

(Interesting, I guess that shows you don't always need the whole entry
 on the same line.)

I'm not using printtool or anything like it.  Just manpages and text
editors.

--
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that
whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
1024D/2E3EBF13 Jesse Jacobsen (Grace, Madison WI) <jmjaco at home.com>



From matt at kindjal.net  Sun Aug 20 14:47:01 2000
From: matt at kindjal.net (Matthew Callaway)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:47:01 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Madlug] Fighting Netscape
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008201442440.27988-100000@mystra.kindjal.net>

I've been trying to get streaming audio to work correctly via xmms and
Netscape.  Things work about half-way.  When I go to www.shoutcast.com and pick
a station to listen to, I have a MIME type for extensions ".pls" which pipes the
playlist into a script that I've written, which calls xmms to play the
URL.  That works fine and dandy, but www.icecast.org has slightly different
playlists.  There, they have .m3u extensions, and the playlists are a bit
different.  No problem, I think, I'll just edit my script, and enter a new mime
type.

Well I can't seem to get Netscape to actually USE the MIME type I've created for
the .m3u extensions.  I can't see any other entries that may be conflicting, so
my question is this:

What's the procedure for creating a new MIME type, and forcing Netscape to do
what you want with files of a particular extension?

I've created the MIME type, noted the extension, restarted Netscape, cleared the
disk and memory cache, nothing seems to make it take.  It always uses the
"download file" option when I click on a .m3u file, instead of piping it to my
script, like I've told it to do.

Ideas?


Matt





From jiml at slh.wisc.edu  Sun Aug 20 14:58:15 2000
From: jiml at slh.wisc.edu (James E. Leinweber)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:58:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Madlug] Scrolling in xterm - right click to back up
Message-ID: <200008201958.OAA24605@slh.wisc.edu>

Subba Rao asks:

>My xterm is version 4.0.1b(104). I have the scrollbar showing up on
>the left side of my window. I am not able to interactively use the
>mouse to scroll back in the window...

X-term's have unusual scroll bar behavior, by most application's
standards.  I rather like the X-term style, personally.  If you manage
to discover where they buried the directions, you learn that:

  * left click goes forward, right click goes back
  * size of scroll (1-line to 1-screen) is controlled by how far
    down the scroll bar you click
  * middle click jumps to that percentage of the way through the
    document.
  * scroll bar height is proportional to the percentage of the
    document visible on screen versus the scrollback buffer.

Benefits: nice visual feedback on where you are and how big the thing
you are in is.  Easy to get to exactly where you want to be with just 1
mouse op.

Drawbacks:  X-term is the #1 reason why X needs a 3-button mouse.
No-one else has bought into this style of scrollbar, so first-timers
are easily confused.

-- James E. Leinweber
Information Systems   -  State Laboratory of Hygiene - University of Wisconsin
<jiml at slh.wisc.edu> 465 Henry Mall, Madison WI 53706-1578 USA  +1 608 262 0736



From will at flabjab.com  Sun Aug 20 14:46:28 2000
From: will at flabjab.com (Will Benton)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:46:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Madlug] logitech wheelmouse and Mandrake 7.1
In-Reply-To: <01082000400900.00829@cb952536-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.02.10008201540010.25357-100000@flabjab.flabjab.com>

If you set up your mouse as a 3-button mouse, you'll be able to use the
wheel as a middle button (which might be more useful than the wheel,
honestly).  However, if you really want to use the wheel (which is enabled
by default in all GTK+ applications), look here:
http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/




best,
wb

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Curtis Rey wrote:

> Hello all.  I'm a newbie wheening my self from all (or at least most) of what's
> Microsoft.  I recently installed Mandrake 7.1 and so far Im very pleased with
> it's interface.  However, I cannot get my  ps/2 Logitech MouseMan/FirstMouse
> wheel to work.  I have searched and read various strings on how to set it up
> and I have tried to impliment DrakConf and edits to the XF86Config file to
> active the wheel functions.   The best I've managed is to turn the wheel into a
> 2nd right mouse button.   
> 
> Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you
> 
> Curtis Rey
> crrey at home.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Madlug mailing list  -  Madlug at madisonlinux.org
> http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug
> 




From billf at inxpress.net  Sun Aug 20 22:18:33 2000
From: billf at inxpress.net (Bill Fredrickson)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 22:18:33 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Meeting anouncement
Message-ID: <39A09F89.7A972324@inxpress.net>

Hi All, 

Just a reminder that we have a meeting scheduled
for next Tuesday, Aug 22. It is my understanding
that the meeting will be held in room 1221
Computer Science, on the UW campus. As usual the
meeting will start about 7pm. No specific topic
has been scheduled, so a general disucssion, and
help session will be held. 

Bill



From Jcbyrne at ra.rockwell.com  Mon Aug 21 07:57:01 2000
From: Jcbyrne at ra.rockwell.com (Jcbyrne at ra.rockwell.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 07:57:01 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Milwaukee Users Group Status?
Message-ID: <OF327CE706.DBF8289F-ON86256942.0046E817@ra.rockwell.com>

The Milwaukee Linux Users Group (mlug) is at:

http://www.mlug.net/

Instructions for subscribing are there.

jb






"Austin M. Kyser" <austin.kyser at worldnet.att.net>@madisonlinux.org on
08/19/2000 05:03:24 PM

Sent by:  madlug-admin at madisonlinux.org


To:   madlug at madisonlinux.org
cc:
Subject:  [Madlug] Milwaukee Users Group Status?


I apologize that this message may be a tad off topic.  But I am hoping
that someone might know the status of a Milwaukee Linux Users Group?  I
have found references to one in Milwaukee on several web sites, but all
links to a web page detailing such a group fails.

Any information pointing me in the right direction is greatly
appreciated.

-Austin
Running GNOME/Enlightenment/RH6.1
Oconomowoc, WI

_______________________________________________
Madlug mailing list  -  Madlug at madisonlinux.org
http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug






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From maynord at terracom.net  Mon Aug 21 12:01:43 2000
From: maynord at terracom.net (Robert Maynord)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:01:43 +0000
Subject: [Madlug] Network Printing Solved!
Message-ID: <00082117111301.00135@darkstar>

Thanks to Jesse and everyone !

I finally got the network printer to print.  I found that there was more
than one print queue on the server, lp0 and lp1, one going to a "foreign"
machine.  I deleted everything except lp0.  At this point, the xpdq
workstation started working/printing, but the Red Hat station still did not
work. 

Sooooo... I figured that the print server must know something about the xpdq
workstation that it doesn't know about the Red Hat workstation.  I checked
"hosts.lpd", but  both workstations were there.  I then checked plain "hosts",
and found the xpdq workstation listed, but not the Red Hat.  I added the Red
Hat IP to "hosts" (on the print server), and it worked!

I don't quite understand why, maybe it has to do with the fact I am running
static IP addresses.  Anyway, it works.

Thanks for your suggestions!!!

Robert






From stan.buskus at att.net  Tue Aug 22 21:21:39 2000
From: stan.buskus at att.net (Stan Buskus)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 02:21:39 +0000
Subject: [Madlug] Automatically add route with ICMP redirect
Message-ID: <39A33533.573E5829@att.net>

Hi all,
Does anyone know how I can configure Linux to automatically add a new
router whenever it receives an ICMP redirect from another router? It
seems other Unix and WinNT have this feature, but I can't seem to find
it with Linux.

Thanks,
Stan Buskus




From bates at stat.wisc.edu  Wed Aug 23 12:15:39 2000
From: bates at stat.wisc.edu (Douglas Bates)
Date: 23 Aug 2000 12:15:39 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] [tony <tfn@laketown.com>] madlinux meetings
Message-ID: <6rhf8blwzo.fsf@franz.stat.wisc.edu>

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From polsen at tds.net  Wed Aug 23 18:38:45 2000
From: polsen at tds.net (Philip Olsen)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:38:45 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] perl dependencies question
Message-ID: <000e01c00d5b$47704920$0201a8c0@Letoile>

Hi-

I am trying to install a Gnome application which requires usr/bin/perl (this is the message I get when I try installing the feature). I am using RPM. (for the record, I am not able to install any application which requires /usr/bin/perl so it is not package dependent)

After removing an old version of Perl, I installed the Active State version of Perl (their binary build 616 which corresponds to Perl 5.6). due to where they install things in /usr/local (essentially) there is no longer a /usr/bin/perl. So, I thought the solution would be to make a hard link:

ln "the perl5.6.0 path" /usr/bin/perl

The hard link is present and correct, and I can run Perl programs that I have written etc. So, I am at a loss after spending the last few hours trying to figure out what to do on the various linux WWW sites.

What do I need to do?

Thanks in advance for any help, Phil
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From subb3 at attglobal.net  Sat Aug 26 04:34:20 2000
From: subb3 at attglobal.net (Subba Rao)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 09:34:20 +0000
Subject: [Madlug] /dev/null settings
Message-ID: <20000826093420.A7549@attglobal.net>

Some of my cron jobs are writing their error messages to /dev/null.
It was working fine until yesterday, when I choose to link the netscape
"cookies" file to /dev/null. After that the cron job send me email with
the following message.

/bin/sh: /dev/null: Permission denied

The current permission on /dev/null are as follows,

crw-------   1 root     sys        1,   3 Jul 17  1994 null

Are these the default settings for /dev/null?

--
Subba Rao
subb3 at attglobal.net
http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/

 => Time is relative. Here is a new way to look at time. <=
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From bates at stat.wisc.edu  Sat Aug 26 09:51:26 2000
From: bates at stat.wisc.edu (Douglas Bates)
Date: 26 Aug 2000 09:51:26 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] /dev/null settings
In-Reply-To: Subba Rao's message of "Sat, 26 Aug 2000 09:34:20 +0000"
References: <20000826093420.A7549@attglobal.net>
Message-ID: <6r7l94t6s1.fsf@franz.stat.wisc.edu>

Subba Rao <subb3 at attglobal.net> writes:

> Some of my cron jobs are writing their error messages to /dev/null.
> It was working fine until yesterday, when I choose to link the netscape
> "cookies" file to /dev/null. After that the cron job send me email with
> the following message.
> 
> /bin/sh: /dev/null: Permission denied
> 
> The current permission on /dev/null are as follows,
> 
> crw-------   1 root     sys        1,   3 Jul 17  1994 null
> 
> Are these the default settings for /dev/null?

No.  It should have rw permissions for all.  That is, as root run

 chmod a+rw /dev/null



From sdavenpo at mailbag.com  Sat Aug 26 17:34:45 2000
From: sdavenpo at mailbag.com (Steve Davenport)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:34:45 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] atalkd,afpd Can you help?
Message-ID: <p04310101b5cdf3000443@[64.73.6.152]>

Is anyone in the Madison area familiar with setting up a LINUX file 
server to handle both Macintosh and Windows computers?

I work for a small nonprofit school, and I admit I'm way over my head.

We had this set up and working for a while, but "lost" our abilities 
to see across the LINUX / Macintosh divide when upgrading to a newer 
version of Red Hat.

While not wishing to preclude donated services, I don't wish to give 
the impression that donating your services is a requirement. 
Availability this month would be desirable.

Please contact me if this is within your LINUX abilities.

Thanks,

-Steve.






From TonyH at selectpub.com  Mon Aug 28 11:44:29 2000
From: TonyH at selectpub.com (Tony Herman)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:44:29 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] ZIP Drive - almost installed...help
Message-ID: <EBF0B0F8D6C9D311A0FE00805FBB7CA21FCFCE@EMAILSERVER>

Hello All,

I am trying to install an Iomega ZIP100 Parallel Port on a new linux box. I
am using RH6.2. I think I've almost got it. I am using the imm module. Here
is some info:

	[root at www]: fdisk -l /dev/sda

	Disk /dev/sda: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 96 cylinders
	Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes

	   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
	/dev/sda4   *         1        96     98288    6  FAT16
	[root at www]: lsmod
	Module                  Size  Used by
	imm                     9420   0 
	parport_pc              7304   1  (autoclean)
	parport                 7452   1  [imm parport_pc]
	rtl8139                11748   1  (autoclean)
	[root at www]: mount mount /zip
	mount: mount has wrong major or minor number
	[root at www]: 

Here is the zip line in my /etc/fstab:

	/dev/sda4               /zip                    vfat    noauto,owner
0 0

It seems to recognize the drive when I do the "fdisk -l /dev/sda". One thing
I found is that I may need the "sd" module loaded. I did a make xconfig in
/usr/src/linux but cannot find where this module is. I'm very new at
compiling the kernel, so any help at all here would be greatly appreciated.

	[root at www]: insmod sd
	insmod: sd: no module by that name found

Thanks in advance!
-Tony





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From pahowe at home.com  Tue Aug 29 02:41:14 2000
From: pahowe at home.com (PHowe)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 03:41:14 -0400
Subject: [Madlug] (no subject)
Message-ID: <001801c0118c$82449440$0300a8c0@pax>

unsubscribe 1qaz pahowe at home.com




From nathan.black at dot.state.wi.us  Wed Aug 30 08:07:10 2000
From: nathan.black at dot.state.wi.us (Black, Nathan)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:07:10 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] Words of Wisdom from Microsoft
Message-ID: <45F949D73F69D41198B00004AC2513FB039CC1@mad00mp3.dot.state.wi.us>

Classic...

> Taken out of context from the Microsoft Web site, but a joy to read, none
> the less...
> 
> "If you think you are experiencing a memory link, please be aware
>  that memory leaks may not be what they appear to be. You may
>  discover that a memory leak is really not a memory leak but a
>  performance enhancement. "
> 
> 
>       Learn more at:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/support/kb.asp?ID=268343



From riot at hotbot.com  Wed Aug 30 20:07:58 2000
From: riot at hotbot.com (Brian Gratrix)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:07:58 -0700
Subject: [Madlug] wanna help a newbie get dsl up and running?
Message-ID: <GMCIDPOAAHNGFAAA@hotbot.com>

Hi there, everyone... here's my (hardware) setup:

  .-------------------------------.     .--------------.
--|Paradyne MVL Modem (DSL router)|-----|eth1 on redhat|
  `-------------------------------'     |6.1 linux fire|
                                        |wall          |
                     .------------.     |              |
    .----------------|     hub    |-----|eth0          |
    |                `------------'     `--------------'
    |          .--------'       |
    |          |                |
.------.   .------.   .------.  |
|win98/|   |win98 |   |win98 |  |
|linux |   |      |   |      |  |
|dual  |   |      |   |      |--'
|boot  |   |      |   |      |
`------'   `------'   `------'

i've got the network part working just fine (everything can ping everything else just fine), what i need now is for a guide (person or document) that can walk me through setting up the DSL part.  anyone have any advice/pointers?  i'm willing to serve as a source of beer for a knowledege/beer tradeoff... :)

thanks,

brian

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From Dave at weccusa.org  Wed Aug 30 20:11:32 2000
From: Dave at weccusa.org (Dave at weccusa.org)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 20:11:32 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] wanna help a newbie get dsl up and running?
Message-ID: <617166E1FBECD1119D980060974FBDF92C9D39@WECC-SERVER>

	Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the modem
and eth1 needs to be plugged into another hub or you need to get a direct
cable to plug the modem directly into your firewall.  I'm pretty sure the
modem acts just like another network card so the pins on the cable need to
be switched.  Look on how to create a 10baseT direct cable if you want or go
the easy route and buy a cheap 10baseT hub.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Gratrix [mailto:riot at hotbot.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:08 PM
To: madlug at madisonlinux.org
Subject: [Madlug] wanna help a newbie get dsl up and running?


Hi there, everyone... here's my (hardware) setup:

  .-------------------------------.     .--------------.
--|Paradyne MVL Modem (DSL router)|-----|eth1 on redhat|
  `-------------------------------'     |6.1 linux fire|
                                        |wall          |
                     .------------.     |              |
    .----------------|     hub    |-----|eth0          |
    |                `------------'     `--------------'
    |          .--------'       |
    |          |                |
.------.   .------.   .------.  |
|win98/|   |win98 |   |win98 |  |
|linux |   |      |   |      |  |
|dual  |   |      |   |      |--'
|boot  |   |      |   |      |
`------'   `------'   `------'

i've got the network part working just fine (everything can ping everything
else just fine), what i need now is for a guide (person or document) that
can walk me through setting up the DSL part.  anyone have any
advice/pointers?  i'm willing to serve as a source of beer for a
knowledege/beer tradeoff... :)

thanks,

brian

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From polsen at tds.net  Wed Aug 30 21:15:46 2000
From: polsen at tds.net (Philip Olsen)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:15:46 -0500
Subject: [Madlug] wanna help a newbie get dsl up and running?
References: <GMCIDPOAAHNGFAAA@hotbot.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c012f1$602aa640$0201a8c0@Letoile>

- it is difficult to know what exactly you need help with from what you have
written.
it seems like you do not have a whole lot left to do. i presume you have
your firewall set-up as a gateway for your private net. in this case,
interface eth1 just needs to be set-up to obtain an IP via DHCP and then you
are good to go. tons of documentation is available at the linux
documentation project website (LDP). i don't have the URL handy but it is
easily found via a search engine. check out the IP configuration HOWTOs or
even the online version of the linux network admin's guide (the chapter on
IP interface configuration - chap. 5).

phil

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Gratrix <riot at hotbot.com>
To: <madlug at madisonlinux.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:07 PM
Subject: [Madlug] wanna help a newbie get dsl up and running?


> Hi there, everyone... here's my (hardware) setup:
>
>   .-------------------------------.     .--------------.
> --|Paradyne MVL Modem (DSL router)|-----|eth1 on redhat|
>   `-------------------------------'     |6.1 linux fire|
>                                         |wall          |
>                      .------------.     |              |
>     .----------------|     hub    |-----|eth0          |
>     |                `------------'     `--------------'
>     |          .--------'       |
>     |          |                |
> .------.   .------.   .------.  |
> |win98/|   |win98 |   |win98 |  |
> |linux |   |      |   |      |  |
> |dual  |   |      |   |      |--'
> |boot  |   |      |   |      |
> `------'   `------'   `------'
>
> i've got the network part working just fine (everything can ping
everything else just fine), what i need now is for a guide (person or
document) that can walk me through setting up the DSL part.  anyone have any
advice/pointers?  i'm willing to serve as a source of beer for a
knowledege/beer tradeoff... :)
>
> thanks,
>
> brian
>
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>
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