From billf at inxpress.net Thu Mar 2 09:03:20 2000 From: billf at inxpress.net (Bill Fredrickson) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:03:20 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Meeting Reminder Message-ID: <38BE82B8.DC6024E6@inxpress.net> Hi Everybody, Tomorrow's the first Friday of March so it must be Steep N Brew time. The Meeting will be at the State Street Steep N Brew at about 7pm. Everybody's welcome. Nothing special on the adgenda, just the usual techie chit chat. Hope to see you all there. Bill From arzamendi at berbee.com Thu Mar 2 09:37:36 2000 From: arzamendi at berbee.com (Peter Arzamendi) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:37:36 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Perl question. Message-ID: Hello, I'm new to Perl and was looking for some help. What I'm tiring to do is open a Win32 console on a NT server and execute a program from within that console. Here is where my question comes in. How do I pipe commands to the program I executed from the WIN32 console?(ex. run rconsole servername and input the password into the password field) thanks in advance, Pete From droehre at bus.wisc.edu Thu Mar 2 11:35:11 2000 From: droehre at bus.wisc.edu (Dan Roehre) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 11:35:11 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] advertisement filtering Message-ID: <4.2.1.20000302112716.00b5b7f0@mail.bus.wisc.edu> Hi, I am wondering if anyone has set up their Linux firewall/router to filter advertising content from the likes of doubleclick, et al. I've seen one article in LinuxGazette, but I think you need to provide the browser with an alternative image to replace the advertising banner. Otherwise Netscape waits and times out waiting for the image. Is anyone doing filtering using ipchains or ipfwadm? I know there are commercial versions and even some opensource products, but I would like to experiment at the router level (maybe I'll even learn something in the process!). Thanks Dan ******************************************** Dan Roehre NT Administrator Technology Support Center UW-Madison School of Business 608-262-7371 droehre at bus.wisc.edu ******************************************** From tshoemaker at students.wisc.edu Thu Mar 2 23:16:39 2000 From: tshoemaker at students.wisc.edu (Ted R Shoemaker) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 23:16:39 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Linux's success Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000302231639.007bd540@students.wisc.edu> "Everyone still flush from seeing Linux take on COMDEX and Wall Street are more than eager to declare Linux the dominating OS of the future... these same pundits were, not even six months ago, calling Linux a 'hacker's hobby tool, not fit for real work." - TJ Miller jr. Complete story: http://www.maximumpc.com/cgi-bin/redirect. cgi?newsletter=mpcn&target= http%3A%2F%2Fwww.osopinion.com%2F Opinions%2FTJMiller%2FTJMiller16.html (That's all one URL -- all 4 lines!) ##### Ted Shoemaker PARENTING is the radical idea that children are worth keeping. From mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us Fri Mar 3 13:56:19 2000 From: mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us (Mark Tinberg) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 13:56:19 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] advertisement filtering Message-ID: You could do this with ipchains but it might be simpler to use stuff from Junkbusters with Squid proxy server or just have a modified /etc/hosts file. Squid is pretty easy to setup, but I personally haven't used Junkbusters with it. As I understand it Junkbusters is just a set of regular expression filters that block ads at the proxy. The other solution is to add domains like doubleclick.com to your /etc/hosts with ip addresses of 127.0.0.1. Since the /etc/hosts is read before DNS (configured in /etc/resolv.conf) requests to doubleclick get sent to your own machine instead, and just timeout. If you are running your own caching DNS server you could just add this to your own zone file, I think. -- Mark Tinberg MTinberg at compuserve.com Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! >>> Dan Roehre 03/02/00 11:35AM >>> Hi, I am wondering if anyone has set up their Linux firewall/router to filter advertising content from the likes of doubleclick, et al. I've seen one article in LinuxGazette, but I think you need to provide the browser with an alternative image to replace the advertising banner. Otherwise Netscape waits and times out waiting for the image. Is anyone doing filtering using ipchains or ipfwadm? I know there are commercial versions and even some opensource products, but I would like to experiment at the router level (maybe I'll even learn something in the process!). From MTinberg at compuserve.com Sun Mar 5 14:05:22 2000 From: MTinberg at compuserve.com (Mark Tinberg) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 14:05:22 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Minutes for Feb 22 and Mar 3 meetings Message-ID: <00030514293301.05172@lordcyrix.raven667.org> Here is the very short meeting minutes for the last two regular meetings. Feb 22: Presentation on X startup and initialization by myself, Mark Tinberg. A copy of the presentation will be available on the website shortly, as soon as I fix the extraneous tags in my HTML docs. After the presentation Bill gave a little talk about the state of the Organization, including the amount left in the Treasury. I stated that I had taken over duties as Secretary and asked anyone if they had any objections. No one did, thankfully, so I continue on. However, we still could use a Treasurer and a few other jobs need filling. If you are interested please contact Bill Fredrickson . No official business was discussed or voted on. The meeting broke up late, as usual, and the die-hards stayed until about Midnight. Mar 3: Great coffee meeting! We had a few new faces from the mailing list show up. We discussed a whole lotta Linux and left Steep-n-Brew a bit after 11:00PM, although a few of us went across the street to BW3s for a beer and left there about 02:00AM. No business was discussed, or voted on. Notes: There was more conversations than I could follow, maybe I should start bringing a notebook and jotting down a few of the subjects discussed, for later reference. It also might be good to get names and email, like a guest book, so I can match faces to people I talk to on-list. -- Mark Tinberg MTinberg at compuserve.com Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! From billf at inxpress.net Sun Mar 5 20:08:01 2000 From: billf at inxpress.net (Bill Fredrickson) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 20:08:01 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] AMD to release 1GHz chip on Monday. Message-ID: <38C31301.9F0B120A@inxpress.net> Be the fist "kid" on your block to have one, or two, or three or....... Saw this on the news wire tonight, thought I would pass it along. Bill Sunday March 5 5:30 PM ET AMD Set to Beat Intel 1GHz Chip By Therese Poletti SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - In a business where speed is paramount, Advanced Micro Devices Inc. appears ready to jump out ahead on Monday of Intel Corp. in the race to ship the first ultra-fast computer chip that reaches a new milestone of 1 billion cycles per second. Advanced Micro (NYSE:AMD - news) issued a news release on Sunday stating it will announce early Monday that it has ``commenced shipments of 1GHz (gigahertz) AMD Athlon processors.'' Analysts had said they expected both Intel (NasdaqNM:INTC - news) and its scrappy rival Advanced Micro to launch their first processors running at one gigahertz this week. A call to Intel on Sunday afternoon was not returned. Both companies sped up their product plans, analysts said, in order to capture the boasting rights for being first to the market with a chip that runs at 1 billion cycles per second. As recently as last month at the company's developer forum, Intel executives said they planned to launch the Pentium III at one gigahertz chip sometime in the second half of this year. On Friday, AMD officials scrambled to take down some details of their own product launch plans from their Web site, which had been inadvertently published in an FAQ (frequently asked question) on AMD's Web site, and republished Friday in an article on The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk). On its Web posting, AMD said that its current manufacturing process, combined with the seventh generation architecture in the Athlon processor, will enable it to launch one gigahertz processors in March. ``It went live prematurely,'' said John Greenagle, a spokesman for AMD in Sunnyvale, Calif. Analysts, however, note that these chips will not be available in big volumes after they are launched and that only a handful of personal computer makers are likely to announce products designed with one gigahertz processors. ``I think it's chest-thumping more than anything else,'' said Mark Edelstone, a Morgan Stanley Dean Witter analyst. Ashok Kumar, an analyst with US Bancorp Piper Jaffray, agreed. ``I don't think there is a big push from an OEM (original equipment manufacturer) perspective. It's just bragging rights,'' Kumar said of current PC maker demand for more powerful chips. ``The sweet spot in the market is closer to 500 megahertz,'' he said of the speed required to run the overwhelming number of computer software programs now available. But because these will be the first processors on the market running at one gigahertz, the companies will be able to charge a premium, even if it is just for a short time. Keith Diefendorff, editor-in-chief of the Microprocessor Report, estimates that both one gigahertz chips will be priced around $900 or so, compared with the $850 now charged for the most expensive Pentium IIIs. Brookwood of Insight 64 has even higher projections, ranging from $1,200, $1,500, to even as high as $2,000. ``It is a huge milestone,'' Brookwood said. ``In a couple of years we won't be talking about 800 megahertz. ... The machines you bought a few years ago will '.8 gigahertz.' The whole scheme of measuring will change. That doesn't happen very often.'' Questions or Comments Copyright ? 2000 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. From subb3 at attglobal.net Mon Mar 6 16:52:50 2000 From: subb3 at attglobal.net (Subba Rao) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:52:50 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] Linux Agents/Robots ?? Message-ID: <20000306175250.A18514@attglobal.net> Are there any command line search agents/bots/crawlers for Linux? I want to search a few engines at the same time for some key topics. Any pointers or info appreciated. Thank you in advance. Subba Rao subb3 at attglobal.net http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ => Time is relative. Here is a new way to look at time. <= http://www.smcinnovations.com From mad96 at hampshire.edu Mon Mar 6 16:52:34 2000 From: mad96 at hampshire.edu (Michael Dartt) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:52:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Madlug] Linux Agents/Robots ?? In-Reply-To: <20000306175250.A18514@attglobal.net> Message-ID: I would recommend using Metacrawler (www.metacrawler.com), which searches Google, Yahoo, Alta Vista, and several other search engines. I've had good luck with it so far. --Mike On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Subba Rao wrote: > > Are there any command line search agents/bots/crawlers for Linux? I want > to search a few engines at the same time for some key topics. > > Any pointers or info appreciated. > > Thank you in advance. > > Subba Rao > subb3 at attglobal.net > http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ > > => Time is relative. Here is a new way to look at time. <= > http://www.smcinnovations.com > > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > From tshoemaker at students.wisc.edu Tue Mar 7 22:18:09 2000 From: tshoemaker at students.wisc.edu (Ted R Shoemaker) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 22:18:09 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] bootable from CD Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000307221809.007bcdf0@students.wisc.edu> I have more than one question, so I'll send more than one post. Here's the first question: What determines whether a particular PC is bootable from CD -- Is it the CD-ROM? the mainboard BIOS? the IDE controller? etc. Thanks, Ted Ted Shoemaker PARENTING is the radical idea that children are worth keeping. From tshoemaker at students.wisc.edu Tue Mar 7 22:20:53 2000 From: tshoemaker at students.wisc.edu (Ted R Shoemaker) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 22:20:53 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Which hardware is linux-compatible? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000307222053.007be7d0@students.wisc.edu> How/where can I find out whether a given piece of hardware is Linux-compatible? Please be more specific than just saying something like "freshmeat" or "read the mans". I'm a newbie and need the *details*. Thank you! Ted Shoemaker PARENTING is the radical idea that children are worth keeping. From tshoemaker at students.wisc.edu Tue Mar 7 22:24:57 2000 From: tshoemaker at students.wisc.edu (Ted R Shoemaker) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 22:24:57 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] bootloader Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000307222457.007bf8b0@students.wisc.edu> How much HDD space is required for the boot-loader? If somebody wants a particular bootloader (see http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ for info about one called GRUB), are they likely to need more space? Thanks! Ted Shoemaker PARENTING is the radical idea that children are worth keeping. From NickHall at flashmail.com Tue Mar 7 22:39:20 2000 From: NickHall at flashmail.com (Nick Hall) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 22:39:20 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Which hardware is linux-compatible? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000307222053.007be7d0@students.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <4.3.2.20000307223322.00b88e60@flash1.flashmail.com> Hi Ted, To start with, you could go to the fairly newbie-friendly http://www.linuxhardware.net There is also a fairly complete database of working hardware at http://lhd.datapower.com If you can't find it there, you can try the Hardware HOWTO (HOWTOs can be found at the Linux Documentation Project site, http://www.linuxdoc.org ). Be warned though, this HOWTO is fairly incomplete so you're not too likely to find that great of info there. You can also check out the specific HOWTO for the piece of hardware you're checking (like the Ethernet HOWTO for an Ethernet card) but again, the author doesn't always update these with the latest hardware. Often you have to find out the chipset if you have something like an Ethernet card and look if other cards with the same chipset are compatible, as this often means your hardware works under Linux. If you can't find it in these sites, I often search usenet at http://www.deja.com as if you're checking to see if it works, someone else has probably checked and someone else has probably succeeded in getting it to work (if its possible with the current drivers). Hope this helps, Nick Hall At 10:20 PM 3/7/00, Ted R Shoemaker wrote: >How/where can I find out whether a given piece of hardware is >Linux-compatible? > >Please be more specific than just saying something like "freshmeat" or >"read the mans". I'm a newbie and need the *details*. > >Thank you! > >Ted Shoemaker > >PARENTING >is the radical idea >that children are worth keeping. > > >_______________________________________________ >Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org >http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug From mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us Wed Mar 8 08:56:27 2000 From: mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us (Mark Tinberg) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 08:56:27 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] bootable from CD Message-ID: This is a function of the BIOS, it should work with any IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM drive. As Steve informed me the way bootable CDs work is that the first 2.88 MB of the CDROM disk becomes an emulated floppy disk to the BIOS. Your floppy drive may be inaccessable because of this. So to make a CD bootable just put a floppy image in the first 2.88 MB and viola. -- Mark Tinberg MTinberg at compuserve.com Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! >>> Ted R Shoemaker 03/07/00 10:18PM >>> I have more than one question, so I'll send more than one post. Here's the first question: What determines whether a particular PC is bootable from CD -- Is it the CD-ROM? the mainboard BIOS? the IDE controller? etc. From mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us Wed Mar 8 09:00:12 2000 From: mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us (Mark Tinberg) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:00:12 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] bootloader Message-ID: Well the bootloader will have to take up the first 512 bytes of the HDD other than that it could be variable, some bootloaders install a couple of meg in a small partition (like OS/2 and Partition Magic), others like LILO and NT Bootloader exist as files on the OS partition. -- Mark Tinberg MTinberg at compuserve.com Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! >>> Ted R Shoemaker 03/07/00 10:24PM >>> How much HDD space is required for the boot-loader? If somebody wants a particular bootloader (see http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ for info about one called GRUB), are they likely to need more space? From bfarina at venture-1.com Wed Mar 8 09:27:46 2000 From: bfarina at venture-1.com (Bill Farina) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:27:46 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Remote Management Tools Message-ID: <4.3.2.20000308092526.00c8f5e0@venture-1.com> Does anyone know of any remote server management tools for Linux that will run on A)other Linux Boxes and B)Windoze Boxes? From taschaab at students.wisc.edu Wed Mar 8 09:46:26 2000 From: taschaab at students.wisc.edu (Tim Schaab) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:46:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Madlug] Remote Management Tools In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000308092526.00c8f5e0@venture-1.com> Message-ID: A remote management program I've been toying around with is Webmin. It's a web based remote management tool. You can configure a lot of normal services with it, it can be customized with 3rd party modules and will also fit itself to your Linux flavor. It can configure Sendmail, Apache, DNS, Squid, Majordomo, Samba, DHPC, and some more server software. You can also mange users, disk usage, disk partitions and more. Nice little program, but having just found it, I haven't been able to test most of the features out. You might want to take a look at it and see what you think. From all the features it has listed and the room it has for expansion, it looks like a nice program. Webmin: http://www.webmin.com -- Tim Schaab Witte Hall Web Designer - http://housing.wisc.edu/witte FMBA Director - http://www.madweb.org/fmba The opinions expressed herein are those of absolutely everyone at UW - Madison: students, the Regents, staff, Professors, their spouses, children, dogs, and cats. In fact, everyone in Madison also agrees. No, make that Wisconsin. From mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us Wed Mar 8 09:46:06 2000 From: mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us (Mark Tinberg) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:46:06 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Remote Management Tools Message-ID: I'm a big fan of the Webmin/MindTerm/WierdX combo (although I haven't tried WierdX yet) 1) Webmin is a web based system config tool, like Linuxconf or COAS. Unlike Linuxconf it is very well designed and plays nice with your hand edited config files (YMMV) It includes a perl based webserver and all the config modules are perl CGIs. It has easy access controls so individual users can only use the config modules that the admin specifies, like the Mail admin only has access to sendmail and majordomo conf, and the account admin only has access to the accounts/groups and quotas section with the web admin only having access to apache and ftp modules. It has a Java file management module, allowing you to view, edit, copy, move and change permissions on files. It is GPL. Webmin has its own host-based security, but as far as running world accessable on a production server, it's probably a good idea to also use ipchains to reduce access. 2) MindTerm is a Java SSH client, it is also available as a predone module for Webmin. I like to put this on servers I create so that I can login and get a shell from anywhere in the world, without having to worry about the configuration of the client workstation. Just stick a small page that loads it as an applet on your webserver and your machine becomes very self-hosting. 3) WierdX (which I haven't used yet) is a Java X server. It would work well with MindTerm to provide secure access including all your X apps for remote management and config. Just think, you could have your complete desktop environment, as you have configured it, from anywhere in the world with just a few clicks! -- Mark Tinberg MTinberg at compuserve.com Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! >>> Bill Farina 03/08/00 09:27AM >>> Does anyone know of any remote server management tools for Linux that will run on A)other Linux Boxes and B)Windoze Boxes? From JSchneider at parts-unltd.com Wed Mar 8 10:01:17 2000 From: JSchneider at parts-unltd.com (Schneider, Jan) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:01:17 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Linux & BIND Message-ID: Has anyone set up a DMZ using RedHat Linux 5.2 and BIND 8? We host the primary DNS on site. The DNS server has an outside address. I'm trying to create a DMZ for our web application servers. Can anyone help? Thanks. Janet Schneider, CNE Network Engineer LeMans Corporation Voice 608.741.5325 Fax 608.758.1814 jschneider at parts-unltd.com From matt at securepipe.com Wed Mar 8 10:18:29 2000 From: matt at securepipe.com (matt at securepipe.com) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:18:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Madlug] Linux & BIND In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've done that. What exactly is the problem? Assuming you have the IP connectivity working (the DMZ nameserver can see the net), then it's just a matter of configuring bind. That is: create "master" files for each zone you're authoritative for, and configure /var/named/named.conf. Thisfile will specify the "resolvers" that is, who can query you, as well as have the "zone" data for each of the domains you're authoritative for. If you have a specific question, feel free to email me. On 8 Mar, Schneider, Jan wrote: > Has anyone set up a DMZ using RedHat Linux 5.2 and BIND 8? We host the > primary DNS on site. The DNS server has an outside address. I'm trying to > create a DMZ for our web application servers. Can anyone help? Thanks. > > Janet Schneider, CNE > Network Engineer > LeMans Corporation > Voice 608.741.5325 > Fax 608.758.1814 > jschneider at parts-unltd.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug -- Matthew Callaway Network Administrator SecurePipe Communications, LLC matt at securepipe.com From andis at medix1.com Thu Mar 9 11:02:26 2000 From: andis at medix1.com (Andi Siahaan) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:02:26 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Free Web Hosting Message-ID: I am looking for the site to allow me to host my domain name for non commercial site. I know some but it is for business. Thanks Andi From taschaab at students.wisc.edu Sat Mar 11 00:41:58 2000 From: taschaab at students.wisc.edu (Tim Schaab) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 00:41:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Madlug] Aureal Vortex Linux Drivers? Message-ID: Huzzah and Kudos! Does anyone know if there are linux drivers for Aureal's vortex1 sound card chipset? I thought I heard something mentioned about it a while ago and can't find any info on it. Thanks for any help! -- Tim Schaab Witte Hall Web Designer - http://housing.wisc.edu/witte - MIA FMBA Director - http://www.madweb.org/fmba The opinions expressed herein are those of absolutely everyone at UW - Madison: students, the Regents, staff, Professors, their spouses, children, dogs, and cats. In fact, everyone in Madison also agrees. No, make that Wisconsin. From subb3 at attglobal.net Sat Mar 11 20:44:18 2000 From: subb3 at attglobal.net (Subba Rao) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 21:44:18 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] Cacheing Message-ID: <20000311214418.G2156@attglobal.net> I am using Squid in conjunction with Junkbuster. The banner adds blocking is working fine. One of the main purpose of Squid is not working for me, i.e. cacheing. What configuration flags should be enabled/disabled for cacheing to work? I thought I defined the cache directory in the config file. cache_dir ufs /var/squid/cache 100 16 256 Each time I visit a static site, the page is loaded. The same pages were not reloaded via Apache proxy module. If I can get squid to cache the web, then I plan to delete the Apache proxy module. Thank you in advance for any help. Subba Rao subb3 at attglobal.net http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ => Time is relative. Here is a new way to look at time. <= http://www.smcinnovations.com From etler at cs.wisc.edu Sat Mar 11 21:22:58 2000 From: etler at cs.wisc.edu (Sam Etler) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 21:22:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Madlug] MAD-SAGE Kick off Message-ID: There's a Madison chapter of SAGE that's being formed. The kick off meeting is next Thursday. One of the people who's setting it all up is my boss, David Parter. He's very involved in the Usenix and SAGE community, was the chair of LISA 1999 etc. Should be interesting.. More detailed info about the organization is below, and details about the upcoming meeting as well. Hope to see some of you guys there! Sam Etler UW Madison CSL Networking ------------------------------------------------------------------------ My apologies if you get this more than once. Please join us, and please pass the word to any Madison area system administrators that you know. --david MAD-SAGE -- The Madison System Administrators' Guild! MAD-SAGE is the Madison System Administrators' Guild. Participation is not limited to members of SAGE, nor is it limited to people who admin Unix, NT, any other OS, routers, or networks. If you ride herd on information systems and/or their users, you belong here. We are a local group affiliated with SAGE, The System Administrators' Guild (http://www.usenix.org/sage). SAGE is a special technical groupof USENIX, The Advanced Computing Systems Association (http://www.usenix.org). MAD-SAGE is now forming. The organizing committee for the kick-off event is William Annis (UW Biomedical Computing Group), Kent Hooker (UW Division of Information Technology), David Parter (UW Computer Science Department), and Scott Pichelman (Berbee Information Networks). Thanks for Bob Kabler, Jeremy Charles and Epic Systems for the use of Epic's meeting room. Join us at our "kick-off" event: The Blind Man and the Elephant -- What Is System Administration? Panelists: * Steve Barnet, UW Space Science Engineering Center * Tom Mish, Berbee Information Networks * Kim Wallace, Cisco Systems (special guest panelist from Silicon Valley) Date: Thursday, March 16 Time: 6:00 PIZZA and "networking" 6:30 Introduction and Panel Discussion ~7:30 short "business meeting" to discuss organizational issues Location: Epic Systems 5301 Tokay Blvd (on the top of the hill behind Westgate Mall) Directions: Epic is at the top of the hill on Tokay Blvd, between Segoe Rd. and Whitney Way. Enter at the East driveway (away from Westgate Mall). Follow the arrows on the signs around to the back side of the building. The main entrance is set back in to the middle of the building. Push the doorbell button if the door is locked and the receptionist will let you in. Follow the signs to the MAD-SAGE event. This information is also on the web at http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~dparter/mad-sage.html and will soon be on the web at http://www.mad-sage.org From subb3 at attglobal.net Sun Mar 12 16:45:39 2000 From: subb3 at attglobal.net (Subba Rao) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:45:39 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] Apache Proxy and Apache server at startup Message-ID: <20000312174539.A1794@attglobal.net> I have 2 questions regarding Apache server version 1.3.11. 1. == I have Apache Proxy installed on Linux. The proxy web cacheing works fine, when I access the web from a 95/NT box. Most revisted pages are immediately fetched from the Apache Proxy's cache. This is certainly not true when I access these same pages from the hosting Linux system. Each revist is fetched from the site. I have configured browsers exactly alike. Any idea why this is happening? 2. == One other problem I have noticed is the slow startup of Apache at boot up time. In the startup scripts, I have the following lines: if [ -x /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl ]; then echo "Starting Apache Web Server" /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start fi The system waits for about 5 minutes before moving on to the next instruction. I do not have any "sleep" commands in this script. Once the system has started, if I do any of the following commands: /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl stop /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl restart Apache responds rightaway. If anyone is experiencing this same problem, please let me know how you resolved this problem. Thank you in advance. Subba Rao subb3 at attglobal.net http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ => Time is relative. Here is a new way to look at time. <= http://www.smcinnovations.com From andis at medix1.com Mon Mar 13 08:51:35 2000 From: andis at medix1.com (Andi Siahaan) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:51:35 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Apache Message-ID: When I try to "./configure" apache 1.3.12 an error says " something you don't have compiler no gcc cc and there is another I don't remember. Also On the book it says do "./configure --something=/something/httpd \. What this "\" symbol means. Thanks Andi From mad96 at hampshire.edu Mon Mar 13 08:13:56 2000 From: mad96 at hampshire.edu (Michael Dartt) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:13:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Madlug] Apache In-Reply-To: Message-ID: (As tired as I am, I'm not sure I can answer this effectively, but I'll give it a shot....) Could you paste the error message into an email? That'll make it much easier to answer your question. I can't be 100% certain what the "\" symbol is in this context, as I'm not sure what book you're referring to, but it's generally an "escape character" on the command line. That is, it tells the shell that whatever comes after the "\" should be treated literally and not be interpreted by the shell. An example is if you have file names with spaces in them--tab completion in zsh when I want to run pico on a file named "m2m review" yields: jedin[~]: pico m2m\ review this way, the shell knows that there's a space in there that's part of the file name, and that "review" isn't an option to the command or something. I hope I haven't confused anyone with this explanation. :-) (Btw, the file referred to above is my Q&D, spoiler-free review of "Mission to Mars". If anyone wants to see it, let me know and I'll be happy to email you a copy. And yes, it's different from the ones on Slashdot :-j) --Mike On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Andi Siahaan wrote: > When I try to "./configure" apache 1.3.12 an error says " something you > don't have compiler no gcc cc and there is another I don't remember. Also On > the book it says do "./configure --something=/something/httpd \. What this > "\" symbol means. > > Thanks > > Andi > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > From lcarus at lucent.com Mon Mar 13 13:38:13 2000 From: lcarus at lucent.com (Larry Caruso) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:38:13 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] printing from red hat 6.1 Message-ID: At the risk of asking a newbie question, how does one using Red Hat 6.1 setup IP-based printing to an HP jetdirect based last printer such as an HP 8000? TIA, Larry From mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us Tue Mar 14 09:29:28 2000 From: mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us (Mark Tinberg) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:29:28 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Apache Message-ID: The \ can be used to escape newline characters as well so that line breaks aren't interpreted by the shell and are passed to the program, which will ignore them. That way you can break up config files into multiple lines for readability while the program can interpret them as one line. Example: ./configure --something=something_else \ --something_else_entirely=no \ --end_of_the_line=yes Which gets interpreted as: ./configure --something=something_else --something_else_entirely=no --end_of_the_line=yes -- Mark Tinberg MTinberg at compuserve.com Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! >>> Andi Siahaan 03/13/00 08:51AM >>> When I try to "./configure" apache 1.3.12 an error says " something you don't have compiler no gcc cc and there is another I don't remember. Also On the book it says do "./configure --something=/something/httpd \. What this "\" symbol means. From mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us Tue Mar 14 09:47:11 2000 From: mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us (Mark Tinberg) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:47:11 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Cacheing Message-ID: I am running Squid on my workstation both at home and at work (to have a unified cache for Netscape, Mozilla, KFM, W3M, Lynx, IE5.x (in Windows in VMWare), etc.) I have noticed that the cache speed for static pages is not all that noticable, where I do notice it is for images. I have also noticed that some websites send HTTP headers that instruct that their pages should not be cached, this is supposed to be used for pages that have dynamic content, like Slashdot, but is sometimes used on commercial sites, like ones that serve graphics files. Also for the cache to determine whether it has the current page or graphic it has to make a request to the remote site and ask, which can generate some traffic. -- Mark Tinberg MTinberg at compuserve.com Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! >>> Subba Rao 03/11/00 08:44PM >>> I am using Squid in conjunction with Junkbuster. The banner adds blocking is working fine. One of the main purpose of Squid is not working for me, i.e. cacheing. What configuration flags should be enabled/disabled for cacheing to work? I thought I defined the cache directory in the config file. cache_dir ufs /var/squid/cache 100 16 256 Each time I visit a static site, the page is loaded. The same pages were not reloaded via Apache proxy module. If I can get squid to cache the web, then I plan to delete the Apache proxy module. Thank you in advance for any help. From mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us Tue Mar 14 09:55:31 2000 From: mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us (Mark Tinberg) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:55:31 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Aureal Vortex Linux Drivers? Message-ID: Both the OSS and ALSA seem to have beta drivers for the Vortex 1 and 2 chipsets. I believe that Aureal Open Sourced their old binary only Linux driver which may have been rolled into these drivers. Otherwise look at the Aureal website for more info. -- Mark Tinberg MTinberg at compuserve.com Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! >>> Tim Schaab 03/11/00 12:41AM >>> Huzzah and Kudos! Does anyone know if there are linux drivers for Aureal's vortex1 sound card chipset? I thought I heard something mentioned about it a while ago and can't find any info on it. Thanks for any help! -- Tim Schaab Witte Hall Web Designer - http://housing.wisc.edu/witte - MIA FMBA Director - http://www.madweb.org/fmba The opinions expressed herein are those of absolutely everyone at UW - Madison: students, the Regents, staff, Professors, their spouses, children, dogs, and cats. In fact, everyone in Madison also agrees. No, make that Wisconsin. _______________________________________________ Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug From mad96 at hampshire.edu Thu Mar 16 07:33:43 2000 From: mad96 at hampshire.edu (Michael Dartt) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:33:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Madlug] SAG meeting Message-ID: Could someone forward me the email with the System Administrator's Guild meeting announcement? --Mike From TonyH at selectpub.com Fri Mar 17 11:23:05 2000 From: TonyH at selectpub.com (Tony Herman) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:23:05 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Sending Email and Hostname Message-ID: Hey all! Well, I have some CGI scripts that use sendmail to send mail to users. I am getting bounce messages from a certain user - their mail server is rejecting emails because the header contains (root at localhost) in it. Now, I do have the hostname and domainname set on the machine and this still comes up. Here is a sample header: Return-Path: Received: from www.selectsecure.com ([209.224.226.113]) by mail.forthefarm.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 263 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:00:56 -0600 Received: (from root at localhost) by www.selectsecure.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id GAA05146; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:05:02-0600 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:05:02 -0600 Message-ID: <200003171205.GAA05146 at www.selectsecure.com> To: webstix at forthefarm.com Reply-To: weather at forthefarm.com From: weather at forthefarm.com Subject: Forecast for Madison, Wisconsin --------------- The line in question is: Received: (from root at localhost) by www.selectsecure.com I did a linuxconf --text and looked through every setting and couldn't find "localhost" anywhere. Any idears??? -Tony Anthony C. Herman Chief Web Officer Select Publishing, Inc. Madison, WI tonyh at selectpub.com 608.277.5787 x310 ------------------------------------------ Farm --> http://www.forthefarm.com Auctions --> http://www.communitytrade.com Web --> http://www.selectpub.com ------------------------------------------ From Dean.Jefferson at oci.state.wi.us Fri Mar 17 15:05:00 2000 From: Dean.Jefferson at oci.state.wi.us (Jefferson, Dean) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:05:00 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] My new kernel hangs at "Finding module dependencies:" Message-ID: <832E8B37AD19D311839700508B2CF7D1197B1E@exchange.oci.state.wi.us> Has anyone experienced this? Is there a gotcha I missed? I need to build my own kernel for Oracle; it requires more shared memory and semaphores than are in the standard Red Hat 6.0 kernel. I have read and followed the instructions in the Kernel How-To and the SMP How-To (because I am doing this on a Compaq Proliant with 4 Pentium Pro CPU's). I built my own kernel successfully on a plain old Pentium. The difference was that I did not have to recompile the loadable modules for that machine, but for an SMP machine I have to. Any tips for diagnosing the bad module or modules will be greatly appreciated. Dean Jefferson Database Administrator Wisconsin Office of Commissioner of Insurance 608/267-9422 Dean.Jefferson at oci.state.wi.us From mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us Fri Mar 17 16:13:21 2000 From: mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us (Mark Tinberg) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:13:21 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] My new kernel hangs at "Finding module dependencies:" Message-ID: What modules are "bad" and what are your symptoms? If you are compiling your own kernel just use the menuconfig or xconfig and compile everything statically. What I mean is don't bother to compile all the modules, just compile in the drivers you need and leave everything else go hang. Quicker and less complicated build process that way. Of course that means that everytime you make a hardware change you will have to recompile again, that I why I use modules for everything myself. I just change a config file and viola, out with the old and in with the new. YMMV. Just dive into menuconfig/xconfig and start playing, compile times on a 4 proc machine should be very, very fast and as long as you don't overwrite your current kernel you have nothing to lose. Just add new entries to lilo.conf (remember to run lilo afterwards). -- Mark Tinberg MTinberg at compuserve.com Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! >>> "Jefferson, Dean" 03/17/00 03:05PM >>> Has anyone experienced this? Is there a gotcha I missed? I need to build my own kernel for Oracle; it requires more shared memory and semaphores than are in the standard Red Hat 6.0 kernel. I have read and followed the instructions in the Kernel How-To and the SMP How-To (because I am doing this on a Compaq Proliant with 4 Pentium Pro CPU's). I built my own kernel successfully on a plain old Pentium. The difference was that I did not have to recompile the loadable modules for that machine, but for an SMP machine I have to. Any tips for diagnosing the bad module or modules will be greatly appreciated. From MTinberg at compuserve.com Fri Mar 17 22:52:37 2000 From: MTinberg at compuserve.com (Mark Tinberg) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:52:37 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] My new kernel hangs at "Finding module dependencies:" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00031723003400.04012@lordcyrix.raven667.org> Geeze, you would have thought that I would actually _read_ the subject line. Now here goes. "Finding Module Dependancies" isn't a kernel activity, this is something _after_ the kernel loads. Usually your init scripts run 'depmod -a' at some point, usually before the scripts start loading modules. Try booting into single user mode (LILO: linux single) and running 'depmod -a' and see if it is giving this behavior. If that really is the culprit you can then comment it out of your init scripts so the machine will boot normally (scripts should be in /etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d/init.d). Then run 'strace depmod -a' to see where it is failing. I don't think your system is locking up, it is just that one command which is failing and your scripts wait forever, causing your system to never complete initilization. On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Mark Tinberg wrote: > What modules are "bad" and what are your symptoms? > > If you are compiling your own kernel just use the menuconfig or xconfig and compile everything statically. What I mean is don't bother to compile all the modules, just compile in the drivers you need and leave everything else go hang. Quicker and less complicated build process that way. > > Of course that means that everytime you make a hardware change you will have to recompile again, that I why I use modules for everything myself. I just change a config file and viola, out with the old and in with the new. YMMV. > > Just dive into menuconfig/xconfig and start playing, compile times on a 4 proc machine should be very, very fast and as long as you don't overwrite your current kernel you have nothing to lose. Just add new entries to lilo.conf (remember to run lilo afterwards). > > >>> "Jefferson, Dean" 03/17/00 03:05PM >>> > Has anyone experienced this? Is there a gotcha I missed? > > I need to build my own kernel for Oracle; it requires more shared memory and > semaphores than are in the standard Red Hat 6.0 kernel. I have read and > followed the instructions in the Kernel How-To and the SMP How-To (because I > am doing this on a Compaq Proliant with 4 Pentium Pro CPU's). > > I built my own kernel successfully on a plain old Pentium. The difference > was that I did not have to recompile the loadable modules for that machine, > but for an SMP machine I have to. > > Any tips for diagnosing the bad module or modules will be greatly > appreciated. > -- Mark Tinberg MTinberg at compuserve.com Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! From drp at mindspring.com Sat Mar 18 11:16:04 2000 From: drp at mindspring.com (Dave Perkins) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:16:04 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Samba Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000318111604.007d88e0@pop.mindspring.com> I recently had Samba 2.0.5a up and running on RedHat 6.1 which allowed me to share files with a win98 machine. For no apparent reason however, it has stopped working. I've gone through a number of diagnostic steps and have verified that the Samba server is listening on port 139, but I get nothing but 'session request to SERVERNAME failed' error messages when attempting to connect via smbclient. I've reinstalled all Samba related packages to no avail. I'm working off a minimal smb.conf that worked in the past and is valid according to 'testparm'. Is anyone using Samba successfully today that has run into this type of problem in the past? Any thoughts on how to address this issue would be very much welcomed. Thanks, Dave Perkins From spkraus1 at students.wisc.edu Sun Mar 19 10:45:29 2000 From: spkraus1 at students.wisc.edu (Steven P. Krause) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:45:29 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Tuesday meeting Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000319095136.00a2aef0@students.wisc.edu> Hello all, I'm just sending this out as a short note about the upcoming meeting (Tuesday, March 21) at the Comp. Sci building (7pm). The presentation will focus on text editing / processing / typesetting under Linux, with sections on the following: 1. A brief look at word processing / word processors 2. Text editors and other text tools 3. Typesetting and such (lout, groff, TeX, for example) 4. Other tools, other file formats The bulk of the presentation will focus on the 3rd section, which will cover the 3 systems mentioned, history, uses of such systems, and some specific examples. The final section will briefly deal with tools to produce ps and pdf files, etc. This is meant as an introduction to and survey of the software out there; more advanced presentations on the topics presented could be worked out for later; in fact, if anyone would like to do a presentation on advanced work with packages such as (La)TeX or an advanced emacs presentation, let me know. If you have any questions or suggestions, email me. Steve Krause From TonyH at selectpub.com Sun Mar 19 16:52:08 2000 From: TonyH at selectpub.com (Tony Herman) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:52:08 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost Message-ID: Hey all, Quick question...I can set the domainname and hostname at the command line, but it is lost everytime I reboot. What am I doing wrong? -Tony Anthony C. Herman Chief Web Officer Select Publishing, Inc. Madison, WI tonyh at selectpub.com 608.277.5787 x310 ------------------------------------------ Farm --> http://www.forthefarm.com Auctions --> http://www.communitytrade.com Web --> http://www.selectpub.com ------------------------------------------ From dxf at dewittross.com Mon Mar 20 08:43:26 2000 From: dxf at dewittross.com (Daniell Freed) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:43:26 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost References: Message-ID: <38D6390E.463E6FCF@dewittross.com> Are you changing it in /etc/HOSTNAME? -- Daniell Freed Computer Services Dewitt, Ross, & Stevens He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. Beyond Good and Evil Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzche Tony Herman wrote: > > Hey all, > > Quick question...I can set the domainname and hostname at the command > line, but it is lost everytime I reboot. What am I doing wrong? > > -Tony > > Anthony C. Herman > Chief Web Officer > Select Publishing, Inc. Madison, WI > tonyh at selectpub.com 608.277.5787 x310 > ------------------------------------------ > Farm --> http://www.forthefarm.com > Auctions --> http://www.communitytrade.com > Web --> http://www.selectpub.com > ------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug From TonyH at selectpub.com Mon Mar 20 09:03:05 2000 From: TonyH at selectpub.com (Tony Herman) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:03:05 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost Message-ID: I don't have an /etc/hostname file. I have /etc/hosts - should it go there? What is the format of this file? Thanks, -Tony > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniell Freed [SMTP:dxf at dewittross.com] > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 8:43 AM > To: Tony Herman > Cc: Madison Linux User Group (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost > > Are you changing it in /etc/HOSTNAME? > > -- > Daniell Freed > Computer Services > Dewitt, Ross, & Stevens > > He who fights with monsters might take care > lest he thereby become a monster. > And if you gaze for long into an abyss, > the abyss gazes also into you. > > Beyond Good and Evil > Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzche > > Tony Herman wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > > > Quick question...I can set the domainname and hostname at the > command > > line, but it is lost everytime I reboot. What am I doing wrong? > > > > -Tony > > > > Anthony C. Herman > > Chief Web Officer > > Select Publishing, Inc. Madison, WI > > tonyh at selectpub.com 608.277.5787 x310 > > ------------------------------------------ > > Farm --> http://www.forthefarm.com > > Auctions --> http://www.communitytrade.com > > Web --> http://www.selectpub.com > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug From trowbrid at execpc.com Mon Mar 20 09:17:25 2000 From: trowbrid at execpc.com (Tim J Trowbridge) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:17:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost In-Reply-To: from "Tony Herman" at Mar 20, 0 09:03:05 am Message-ID: <200003201517.JAA14523@earth.execpc.com> How about ... /etc/HOSTNAME (All Caps) Also, some boot scripts will overwrite this file when you reboot. Try a grep hostname /etc/rc.d/init.d/* or maybe your could go right to the "boot" script that might reside there. Tony Herman wrote: > > I don't have an /etc/hostname file. I have /etc/hosts - should it go > there? > > What is the format of this file? > > Thanks, > -Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daniell Freed [SMTP:dxf at dewittross.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 8:43 AM > > To: Tony Herman > > Cc: Madison Linux User Group (E-mail) > > Subject: Re: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost > > > > Are you changing it in /etc/HOSTNAME? > > > > -- > > Daniell Freed > > Computer Services > > Dewitt, Ross, & Stevens > > > > He who fights with monsters might take care > > lest he thereby become a monster. > > And if you gaze for long into an abyss, > > the abyss gazes also into you. > > > > Beyond Good and Evil > > Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzche > > > > Tony Herman wrote: > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > Quick question...I can set the domainname and hostname at the > > command > > > line, but it is lost everytime I reboot. What am I doing wrong? > > > > > > -Tony > > > > > > Anthony C. Herman > > > Chief Web Officer > > > Select Publishing, Inc. Madison, WI > > > tonyh at selectpub.com 608.277.5787 x310 > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > Farm --> http://www.forthefarm.com > > > Auctions --> http://www.communitytrade.com > > > Web --> http://www.selectpub.com > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > > > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > -- Tim J Trowbridge trowbrid at writeme.com Interested in my genealogy? http://www.execpc.com/~trowbrid From dxf at dewittross.com Mon Mar 20 09:21:24 2000 From: dxf at dewittross.com (Daniell Freed) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:21:24 -0600 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost] Message-ID: <38D641F4.6D976841@dewittross.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:20:15 -0600 From: Daniell Freed To: Tony Herman References: What distro are you using? If you are using a Redhat or a Mandrake distro just use linuxconf and change your hostname their, that is the easiest way to do it. It depends on your distro, but most will read the file /etc/HOSTNAME (all caps is important) on bootup in order to set your systems hostname. If you don't have a /etc/HOSTNAME file I would create one and set your desired hostname there, then reboot and see if it fixed the problem. Dan Tony Herman wrote: > > I don't have an /etc/hostname file. I have /etc/hosts - should it go > there? > > What is the format of this file? > > Thanks, > -Tony > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daniell Freed [SMTP:dxf at dewittross.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 8:43 AM > > To: Tony Herman > > Cc: Madison Linux User Group (E-mail) > > Subject: Re: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost > > > > Are you changing it in /etc/HOSTNAME? > > > > -- > > Daniell Freed > > Computer Services > > Dewitt, Ross, & Stevens > > > > He who fights with monsters might take care > > lest he thereby become a monster. > > And if you gaze for long into an abyss, > > the abyss gazes also into you. > > > > Beyond Good and Evil > > Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzche > > > > Tony Herman wrote: > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > Quick question...I can set the domainname and hostname at the > > command > > > line, but it is lost everytime I reboot. What am I doing wrong? > > > > > > -Tony > > > > > > Anthony C. Herman > > > Chief Web Officer > > > Select Publishing, Inc. Madison, WI > > > tonyh at selectpub.com 608.277.5787 x310 > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > Farm --> http://www.forthefarm.com > > > Auctions --> http://www.communitytrade.com > > > Web --> http://www.selectpub.com > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > > > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug -- Daniell Freed Computer Services Dewitt, Ross, & Stevens He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. Beyond Good and Evil Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzche From TonyH at selectpub.com Mon Mar 20 09:40:00 2000 From: TonyH at selectpub.com (Tony Herman) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:40:00 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost Message-ID: Yeah, it was the caps thing (my face is red) :-) But I edited that file and that file is changed after a reboot. Something is overriding it. > Also, some boot scripts will overwrite this file when you reboot. Try a > grep hostname /etc/rc.d/init.d/* > or maybe your could go right to the "boot" script that might reside there. The results of the grep were: [root at webstix]: grep hostname /etc/rc.d/init.d/* Binary file /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd matches Where is the boot script? -Tony > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniell Freed [SMTP:dxf at dewittross.com] > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 9:20 AM > To: Tony Herman > Subject: Re: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost > > What distro are you using? If you are using a Redhat or a Mandrake > distro just use linuxconf and change your hostname their, that is the > easiest way to do it. > > It depends on your distro, but most will read the file /etc/HOSTNAME > (all caps is important) on bootup in order to set your systems > hostname. If you don't have a /etc/HOSTNAME file I would create one > and > set your desired hostname there, then reboot and see if it fixed the > problem. > > Dan > > > > Tony Herman wrote: > > > > I don't have an /etc/hostname file. I have /etc/hosts - should it go > > there? > > > > What is the format of this file? > > > > Thanks, > > -Tony > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Daniell Freed [SMTP:dxf at dewittross.com] > > > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 8:43 AM > > > To: Tony Herman > > > Cc: Madison Linux User Group (E-mail) > > > Subject: Re: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost > > > > > > Are you changing it in /etc/HOSTNAME? > > > > > > -- > > > Daniell Freed > > > Computer Services > > > Dewitt, Ross, & Stevens > > > > > > He who fights with monsters might take care > > > lest he thereby become a monster. > > > And if you gaze for long into an abyss, > > > the abyss gazes also into you. > > > > > > Beyond Good and Evil > > > Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzche > > > > > > Tony Herman wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > > > Quick question...I can set the domainname and hostname at the > > > command > > > > line, but it is lost everytime I reboot. What am I doing wrong? > > > > > > > > -Tony > > > > > > > > Anthony C. Herman > > > > Chief Web Officer > > > > Select Publishing, Inc. Madison, WI > > > > tonyh at selectpub.com 608.277.5787 x310 > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Farm --> http://www.forthefarm.com > > > > Auctions --> http://www.communitytrade.com > > > > Web --> http://www.selectpub.com > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > > > > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > > > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > > -- > Daniell Freed > Computer Services > Dewitt, Ross, & Stevens > > He who fights with monsters might take care > lest he thereby become a monster. > And if you gaze for long into an abyss, > the abyss gazes also into you. > > Beyond Good and Evil > Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzche From trowbrid at execpc.com Mon Mar 20 10:34:00 2000 From: trowbrid at execpc.com (Tim J Trowbridge) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:34:00 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost In-Reply-To: from "Tony Herman" at Mar 20, 0 09:40:00 am Message-ID: <200003201634.KAA12901@earth.execpc.com> Tony Herman wrote: > > Yeah, it was the caps thing (my face is red) :-) > > But I edited that file and that file is changed after a reboot. > Something is overriding it. > > > Also, some boot scripts will overwrite this file when you > reboot. Try a > > grep hostname /etc/rc.d/init.d/* > > or maybe your could go right to the "boot" script that might > reside there. > > The results of the grep were: > > [root at webstix]: grep hostname /etc/rc.d/init.d/* > Binary file /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd matches > > Where is the boot script? If you're using RedHat 6.1 or possibly 6.0, the boot script is probably in /etc/rc.d/init.d Some other distributions will put their boot scripts in /etc/init.d ( Debian ) /etc/rc.d ( Slackware) (I think...not sure on this one.) You may need to do a little searching through some files for the right boot script, but I know in my Debian 1.1 system, the boot script was located at /etc/init.d/boot on Debian 2.1, the script that sets the hostname is /etc/init.d/hostname.sh, but it depends on /etc/hostname containing the hostname.domain.name > > -Tony > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daniell Freed [SMTP:dxf at dewittross.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 9:20 AM > > To: Tony Herman > > Subject: Re: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost > > > > What distro are you using? If you are using a Redhat or a Mandrake > > distro just use linuxconf and change your hostname their, that is the > > easiest way to do it. > > > > It depends on your distro, but most will read the file /etc/HOSTNAME > > (all caps is important) on bootup in order to set your systems > > hostname. If you don't have a /etc/HOSTNAME file I would create one > > and > > set your desired hostname there, then reboot and see if it fixed the > > problem. > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > Tony Herman wrote: > > > > > > I don't have an /etc/hostname file. I have /etc/hosts - should it go > > > there? > > > > > > What is the format of this file? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > -Tony > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Daniell Freed [SMTP:dxf at dewittross.com] > > > > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 8:43 AM > > > > To: Tony Herman > > > > Cc: Madison Linux User Group (E-mail) > > > > Subject: Re: [Madlug] Hostname and Domainname keep being lost > > > > > > > > Are you changing it in /etc/HOSTNAME? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Daniell Freed > > > > Computer Services > > > > Dewitt, Ross, & Stevens > > > > > > > > He who fights with monsters might take care > > > > lest he thereby become a monster. > > > > And if you gaze for long into an abyss, > > > > the abyss gazes also into you. > > > > > > > > Beyond Good and Evil > > > > Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzche > > > > > > > > Tony Herman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > > > > > Quick question...I can set the domainname and hostname at the > > > > command > > > > > line, but it is lost everytime I reboot. What am I doing wrong? > > > > > > > > > > -Tony > > > > > > > > > > Anthony C. Herman > > > > > Chief Web Officer > > > > > Select Publishing, Inc. Madison, WI > > > > > tonyh at selectpub.com 608.277.5787 x310 > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > Farm --> http://www.forthefarm.com > > > > > Auctions --> http://www.communitytrade.com > > > > > Web --> http://www.selectpub.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > > > > > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > > > > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > > > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > > > > -- > > Daniell Freed > > Computer Services > > Dewitt, Ross, & Stevens > > > > He who fights with monsters might take care > > lest he thereby become a monster. > > And if you gaze for long into an abyss, > > the abyss gazes also into you. > > > > Beyond Good and Evil > > Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzche > > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > -- Tim J Trowbridge trowbrid at writeme.com Interested in my genealogy? http://www.execpc.com/~trowbrid From andis at medix1.com Mon Mar 20 10:51:08 2000 From: andis at medix1.com (Andi Siahaan) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:51:08 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Adding second hard drive Message-ID: What do I do next after I add second hd to my linux box. I made my second hd as a slave and I want the second hd strictly for data storage using samba. So, after add the second hd reboot computer and what next. Thanks Andi From jabraham at blc.edu Tue Mar 21 11:28:59 2000 From: jabraham at blc.edu (jabraham at blc.edu) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:28:59 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Adding second hard drive References: Message-ID: <38D7B15B.3CAAC4B@blc.edu> > From: Andi Siahaan > > What do I do next after I add second hd to my linux box. I made my second hd > as a slave and I want the second hd strictly for > data storage using samba. So, after add the second hd reboot computer and > what next. Andi, su to root Back up your primary master now. 1) Define how you want this drive divided. Do you want the whole thing to be one logical drive, or do you want several separate partitions? Decide that based on how you want it used. It sounds like you want a single partition. 2) Partition the drive. I am assuming that both these hard drives are on the primary interface, in that case, your new drive would be /dev/hdb. To partition, do fdisk /dev/hdb type p to print current partition info. (this is a sanity check, if you recognize the partitions as belonging to your installed linux system, then you know you have the wrong device, so dont repartition, just quit "q") type d to delete any partitions that exist, start with the largest numbered partition and work down, repeating as necessary. type n to add a partition, it should be made type 83 (linux) by default Select the primary type select the starting block (usually 1) and then select the largest block number available for the ending (usually default). type p to review the partition info. type w to write it to the drive. This should quit fdisk, some versions you still need to type q to quit. 3) Create a file system on your new partition. mke2fs /dev/hdb You should see bunches of stuff about bootblocks, inodes, and stuff fly by. 4)Define where you want this drive to be made available. Do you want it available as /home/samba or just as /samba and create that mount point as a directory if it doesnt already exist mkdir /home/samba 5) Edit your /etc/fstab to reflect this. Make the last entry something like /dev/hdb1 /home/samba ext2 defaults 1 2 (that is, mount the device hdb's first partition on /home/samba as an ext2 filesystem using default settings) 6) mount the directory by typing mount /home/samba That should be it for the hard drive stuff. How you configure samba depends also an how you want to use the drive. Joe Abrahamson jabraham at blc.edu Bethany Lutheran College Mankato, MN From mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us Tue Mar 21 16:05:45 2000 From: mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us (Mark Tinberg) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:05:45 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Samba Message-ID: Most of the weirdness I have encountered had to do with NetBIOS browsing. I have yet to see an automated browsing protocol that actually works (don't get me started about AppleTalk, ugh). That said you could make sure that both SMBD and NMBD are running, as well as adjusting the loglevel in smb.conf (see the man page for more info). It is _very_ verbose at the higher logging levels. You could also do a tcpdump, if you have it installed, to see exactally what traffic is happening on ethernet interface if that might help. There is a 10 step troubleshooting guide in the Samba docs, learn it, love it, live it. -- Mark Tinberg MTinberg at compuserve.com Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! >>> Dave Perkins 03/18/00 11:16AM >>> I recently had Samba 2.0.5a up and running on RedHat 6.1 which allowed me to share files with a win98 machine. For no apparent reason however, it has stopped working. I've gone through a number of diagnostic steps and have verified that the Samba server is listening on port 139, but I get nothing but 'session request to SERVERNAME failed' error messages when attempting to connect via smbclient. I've reinstalled all Samba related packages to no avail. I'm working off a minimal smb.conf that worked in the past and is valid according to 'testparm'. Is anyone using Samba successfully today that has run into this type of problem in the past? Any thoughts on how to address this issue would be very much welcomed. From mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us Tue Mar 21 16:08:02 2000 From: mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us (Mark Tinberg) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:08:02 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Adding second hard drive Message-ID: That should probably be 'mke2fs /dev/hdb1' 3) Create a file system on your new partition. mke2fs /dev/hdb -- Mark Tinberg MTinberg at compuserve.com Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! From jlowe at itis.com Wed Mar 22 12:06:59 2000 From: jlowe at itis.com (JLowe) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:06:59 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Microsoft screen shot Message-ID: <38D90BC2.11B623F@itis.com> Here's something that I thought I'd share. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The National Computational Science Alliance, comprised of 50 academic, government and research partners, said it would use the system of IBM computers as a part of its effort to create a new highly sophisticated computer network for research. The system, called Los Lobos, is actually a "supercluster" of servers, which are powerful computers that manage networks of other computers. It will be located at the University of New Mexico. Los Lobos will consist of 256 IBM Netfinity PC servers, which linked together will provide supercomputer-level performance at lower cost. More deals to follow A source close to IBM said this was the first of six such deals with universities expected this year. "The Linux superclusters are the new supercomputers of the 21st Century," said Frank Gilfeather, the University of New Mexico's director of supercomputing. "We see them as replacing the traditional Cray, IBM, and Silicon Graphics Inc. supercomputers because of their cost benefit." Researchers said it was the combination of industry-standard PC servers with the Linux operating system that would put supercomputer performance within reach for modestly funded research projects. "Open source software, such as Linux, decreases costs dramatically because the community of users continually augments the software base," said Dan Reed, director of the Alliance. "In addition, superclusters made from off-the-shelf products are a very cost effective way to offer supercomputer performance to the user community." The Netfinity servers are linked together using special clustering software and high speed networking hardware, acting as one to process at a speed of 375 gigaflops, or 375 billion operations per second. That speed would place Los Lobos at No. 24 on the world's current list of the top 500 fastest supercomputers. 'Superclusters made from off-the-shelf products are a very cost effective way to offer supercomputer performance to the user community.'|Dan Reed, Alliance director The effort is seen as a nod to the potential of Linux, which has grown from being a programmer's hobby into a force in the commercial marketplace for computer operating systems. While Linux is popular with technicians and used widely at the back-end of Web sites, it is not yet considered to have the muscle for handling industrial-strength business tasks. IBM, which has embraced the fast-growing operating system by making many of its products run Linux, said that the work of the research community could help to beef up Linux for wider commercial uses. "The Linux movement is benefiting greatly from the strong support of top researchers and programmers at our nation's leading universities and laboratories," said Irving Wladawsky-Berger, vice president of technology and strategy at IBM's Enterprise Systems Group. "The innovation of the National Computational Science Alliance supported by the research community will lead the way for commercial Linux applications and product development," he said. The IBM supercluster system will be delivered in mid-April, and the Alliance will begin to allocate time nationally on the system this summer, for use to make advances in areas such as medicine, physics, chemistry and genetics. From dhodapka at cae.wisc.edu Fri Mar 24 00:08:46 2000 From: dhodapka at cae.wisc.edu (Ashutosh Dhodapkar) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:08:46 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] startx on DELL dimension PC Message-ID: <38DB066E.77EC351C@cae.wisc.edu> Hi, I have been trying to get the X-server running on my new DELL dimension PC. Whenever I startx, the program just quits saying identifier "Module" not allowed or something like that. can someone help me with it. the best help would be to mail me a sample XF86config file which I can modify. thanks, ashutosh -- Ashutosh Sham Dhodapkar ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engg. 1932 University Ave. University of Wisconsin, Madison Apt #104, Madison, 1415 Engineering Drive, Wisconsin 53705 Madison, WI 53706. USA Ph. : 608-265-5403 Ph. 608-233-9009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.madisonlinux.org/pipermail/madlug/attachments/20000324/47059bef/attachment.htm From tim at madweb.org Fri Mar 24 03:06:13 2000 From: tim at madweb.org (Tim Schaab) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 03:06:13 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Madlug] What's the Best Internet Connection Sharing Method? Message-ID: Greetings All, I have a quick question to throw out. If I wanted to network my computers at home (mix of linux and win 98) and connect to the Internet through a cable modem based on a linux box, what's the best method to use? Firewalls? Proxy Servers? Others? I need some general info on it, like speed, ease of setup, security issues and the like. Also, any places on the net anywhere where I can find some information on this would be very helpful too. Thanks! -- Tim Schaab Mad.Web * http://www.madweb.org/ * Enter.My.World Don't let people drive you crazy when you know it's in walking distance. From jjacobsen at jvlnet.com Fri Mar 24 07:41:18 2000 From: jjacobsen at jvlnet.com (Jesse Jacobsen) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 07:41:18 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] startx on DELL dimension PC In-Reply-To: <38DB066E.77EC351C@cae.wisc.edu>; from dhodapka@cae.wisc.edu on Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 12:08:46AM -0600 References: <38DB066E.77EC351C@cae.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <20000324074117.A6909@jvlnet.com> On 03/24/00, Ashutosh Dhodapkar addressed "[Madlug] startx on DELL dimension PC": > > Hi, > I have been trying to get the X-server running on my new DELL dimension > PC. Whenever I startx, the program just quits saying identifier "Module" > not allowed or something like that. can someone help me with it. the > best help would be to mail me a sample XF86config file which I can > modify. It would probably help you most to get a sample XF86Config file from the same distribution you're currently using. Anyway, I'll attach mine, which I use on the Debian distribution, "frozen" branch. -- Jesse Jacobsen, Pastor jjacobsen at jvlnet.com Grace Lutheran Church (ELS) http://www.jvlnet.com/~jjacobsen/ Madison, Wisconsin GnuPG public key ID: 2E3EBF13 -------------- next part -------------- # File generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 1995 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. 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This is for example only. Refer # to the XF86Config man page for a description of the options. # ********************************************************************** # # Section "Xinput" # SubSection "WacomStylus" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # DeviceName "Wacom" # EndSubSection # SubSection "WacomCursor" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # EndSubSection # SubSection "WacomEraser" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # EndSubSection # # SubSection "Elographics" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # DeviceName "Elo" # MinimumXPosition 300 # MaximumXPosition 3500 # MinimumYPosition 300 # MaximumYPosition 3500 # Screen 0 # UntouchDelay 10 # ReportDelay 10 # EndSubSection # # SubSection "Joystick" # Port "/dev/joy0" # DeviceName "Joystick" # TimeOut 10 # MinimumXPosition 100 # MaximumXPosition 1300 # MinimumYPosition 100 # MaximumYPosition 1100 # # CenterX 700 # # CenterY 600 # Delta 20 # EndSubSection # # The Mouse Subsection contains the same type of entries as the # standard Pointer Section (see above), with the addition of the # DeviceName entry. # # SubSection "Mouse" # Port "/dev/mouse2" # DeviceName "Second Mouse" # Protocol "Logitech" # EndSubSection # EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "ADI Microscan" VendorName "ADI" ModelName "Microscan 4v" # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 31-64 # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 50-100 # Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or # a multi-line format. # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # Mode "1024x768i" # DotClock 45 # HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264 # VTimings 768 776 784 817 # Flags "Interlace" # EndMode # This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec # are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and # VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to # delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your # monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor # and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically # used. # 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450 # 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 # 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 # 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # 640x400 @ 85 Hz, 37.86 kHz hsync Modeline "640x400" 31.5 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -HSync +VSync # 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 31.5 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521 # 640x480 @ 75 Hz, 37.50 kHz hsync ModeLine "640x480" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -HSync -VSync # 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 40 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync # 640x480 @ 85 Hz, 43.27 kHz hsync Modeline "640x400" 36 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -HSync -VSync # 1152x864 @ 89 Hz interlaced, 44 kHz hsync ModeLine "1152x864" 65 1152 1168 1384 1480 864 865 875 985 Interlace # 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync # 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 640x480 @ 100 Hz, 53.01 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 45.8 640 672 768 864 480 488 494 530 -HSync -VSync # 1152x864 @ 60 Hz, 53.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1152x864" 89.9 1152 1216 1472 1680 864 868 876 892 -HSync -VSync # 800x600 @ 85 Hz, 55.84 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 60.75 800 864 928 1088 600 616 621 657 -HSync -VSync # 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 80 1280 1296 1512 1568 1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace # 800x600 @ 100 Hz, 64.02 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 69.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -HSync -VSync # 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823 # 1152x864 @ 70 Hz, 62.4 kHz hsync Modeline "1152x864" 92 1152 1208 1368 1474 864 865 875 895 # 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054 # 1024x768 @ 85 Hz, 70.24 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 98.9 1024 1056 1216 1408 768 782 788 822 -HSync -VSync # 1152x864 @ 78 Hz, 70.8 kHz hsync Modeline "1152x864" 110 1152 1240 1324 1552 864 864 876 908 # 1280x1024 @ 70 Hz, 74.59 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 126.5 1280 1312 1472 1696 1024 1032 1040 1068 -HSync -VSync # 1600x1200 @ 60Hz, 75.00 kHz hsync Modeline "1600x1200" 162 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync # 1152x864 @ 84 Hz, 76.0 kHz hsync Modeline "1152x864" 135 1152 1464 1592 1776 864 864 876 908 # 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz, 78.85 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1456 1712 1024 1027 1030 1064 # 1024x768 @ 100Hz, 80.21 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 115.5 1024 1056 1248 1440 768 771 781 802 -HSync -VSync # 1280x1024 @ 76 Hz, 81.13 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1416 1664 1024 1027 1030 1064 # 1600x1200 @ 70 Hz, 87.50 kHz hsync Modeline "1600x1200" 189 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 -HSync -VSync # 1152x864 @ 100 Hz, 89.62 kHz hsync Modeline "1152x864" 137.65 1152 1184 1312 1536 864 866 885 902 -HSync -VSync # 1280x1024 @ 85 Hz, 91.15 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +HSync +VSync # 1600x1200 @ 75 Hz, 93.75 kHz hsync Modeline "1600x1200" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync # 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz, 105.77 kHz hsync Modeline "1600x1200" 220 1600 1616 1808 2080 1200 1204 1207 1244 +HSync +VSync # 1280x1024 @ 100 Hz, 107.16 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 181.75 1280 1312 1440 1696 1024 1031 1046 1072 -HSync -VSync # 1800x1440 @ 64Hz, 96.15 kHz hsync ModeLine "1800X1440" 230 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync # 1800x1440 @ 70Hz, 104.52 kHz hsync ModeLine "1800X1440" 250 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync # 512x384 @ 78 Hz, 31.50 kHz hsync Modeline "512x384" 20.160 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 -HSync -VSync # 512x384 @ 85 Hz, 34.38 kHz hsync Modeline "512x384" 22 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 -HSync -VSync # Low-res Doublescan modes # If your chipset does not support doublescan, you get a 'squashed' # resolution like 320x400. # 320x200 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio Modeline "320x200" 12.588 320 336 384 400 200 204 205 225 Doublescan # 320x240 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio Modeline "320x240" 12.588 320 336 384 400 240 245 246 262 Doublescan # 320x240 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync Modeline "320x240" 15.750 320 336 384 400 240 244 246 262 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio ModeLine "400x300" 18 400 416 448 512 300 301 302 312 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "400x300" 20 400 416 480 528 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "400x300" 25 400 424 488 520 300 319 322 333 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio ModeLine "480x300" 21.656 480 496 536 616 300 301 302 312 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 23.890 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 63 Hz, 39.6 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 25 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 29.952 480 504 584 624 300 319 322 333 Doublescan EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of graphics device sections may be present # Standard VGA Device: Section "Device" Identifier "Generic VGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Chipset "generic" # VideoRam 256 # Clocks 25.2 28.3 EndSection # Sample Device for accelerated server: # Section "Device" # Identifier "Actix GE32+ 2MB" # VendorName "Actix" # BoardName "GE32+" # Ramdac "ATT20C490" # Dacspeed 110 # Option "dac_8_bit" # Clocks 25.0 28.0 40.0 0.0 50.0 77.0 36.0 45.0 # Clocks 130.0 120.0 80.0 31.0 110.0 65.0 75.0 94.0 # EndSection # Sample Device for Hercules mono card: # Section "Device" # Identifier "Hercules mono" # EndSection # Device configured by xf86config: Section "Device" Identifier "CLGD5446" VendorName "Cirrus Logic" BoardName "GD5446" Option "power_saver" VideoRam 2048 # Use Option "no_bitblt" if you have graphics problems. If that fails # try Option "noaccel". # Also "no_pixmap_cache" # Refer to /usr/X11R6/lib/doc/README.cirrus. # To allow linear addressing, uncomment the Option line and the # address that the card maps the framebuffer to. # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The Colour SVGA server Section "Screen" Driver "svga" # Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256 #Device "Generic VGA" Device "CLGD5446" Monitor "ADI Microscan" DefaultColorDepth 16 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 # Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 # Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The 16-color VGA server Section "Screen" Driver "vga16" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "ADI Microscan" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The Mono server Section "Screen" Driver "vga2" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "ADI Microscan" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "CLGD5446" Monitor "ADI Microscan" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1600 1200 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1152 900 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection From bates at stat.wisc.edu Fri Mar 24 08:11:00 2000 From: bates at stat.wisc.edu (Douglas Bates) Date: 24 Mar 2000 08:11:00 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] What's the Best Internet Connection Sharing Method? In-Reply-To: Tim Schaab's message of "Fri, 24 Mar 2000 03:06:13 -0600 (CST)" References: Message-ID: <6rityc5uh7.fsf@franz.stat.wisc.edu> Tim Schaab writes: > I have a quick question to throw out. If I wanted to network my > computers at home (mix of linux and win 98) and connect to the > Internet through a cable modem based on a linux box, what's the best > method to use? Firewalls? Proxy Servers? Others? You want Firewalls and IP Masquerading at least. With IP Masquerading you do not need a Proxy Server. The only reason for adding a Proxy Server would be if you had several clients in the home network that would tend to fetch the same web pages so it would be worthwhile caching a local copy. The April 2000 issue of Linux Journal has a feature section on networking including an article on "The Linux Home Network" and an article on "Setting Up a Linux Gateway". You probably want to get a copy. I have set up such networks and can probably answer technical questions if you run into trouble. From jeklund at jvlnet.com Mon Mar 27 00:02:41 2000 From: jeklund at jvlnet.com (Jon Eklund) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:02:41 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] old hardware support Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000326235050.009885d0@mail.jvlnet.com> note: somewhat off-topic, please reply personally I have Motorola 88K VME terminal server that I've been playing with for a while. While I have all the OS documentation, I'm missing information on some of the peripherals. If anyone knows anything about Motorola DeltaLINK terminal servers let me know, but I'm more looking for some listserv or something relating to "vintage" Motola hardware. thanks for any information. Jon Eklund From subb3 at attglobal.net Mon Mar 27 10:35:49 2000 From: subb3 at attglobal.net (Subba Rao) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:35:49 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] Linux DBMS Message-ID: <20000327113549.A1352@attglobal.net> In the e-Business arena, where are Linux servers being used? It looks like Linux is being used only for Web servers and development platforms. I am currently looking at using a DBMS server on a Linux system. Are Linux systems used as DBMS servers? If yes, what HW configuration would be recommended for a DBMS server for a e-Business application? Which DBMS systems perform well on Linux and are not resource hogs? Thanks for any input. Subba Rao subb3 at attglobal.net http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ => Time is relative. Here is a new way to look at time. <= http://www.smcinnovations.com From bates at stat.wisc.edu Mon Mar 27 10:50:47 2000 From: bates at stat.wisc.edu (Douglas Bates) Date: 27 Mar 2000 10:50:47 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Linux DBMS In-Reply-To: Subba Rao's message of "Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:35:49 -0500" References: <20000327113549.A1352@attglobal.net> Message-ID: <6raejkqrvc.fsf@franz.stat.wisc.edu> Subba Rao writes: > In the e-Business arena, where are Linux servers being used? > It looks like Linux is being used only for Web servers and development > platforms. > I am currently looking at using a DBMS server on a Linux system. > Are Linux systems used as DBMS servers? If yes, what HW configuration > would be recommended for a DBMS server for a e-Business application? > Which DBMS systems perform well on Linux and are not resource hogs? My experience is mostly with MySQL, a relational DBMS that is freely available for Linux. I see a lot of discussion on the MySQL lists regarding running servers under Linux for e-Business. I suggest that you check out their web site http://www.mysql.com/ or its local mirror http://mirror.sit.wisc.edu/mysql/. Paul Dubois's book "MySQL" is an excellent introduction to MySQL and to relational databases in general. He also describes the Perl DBI interface, the PHP interface and the C API for MySQL. It happens that Paul is a local system admin. He works for the Primate Center on the UW campus. Another openly available DBMS for Linux is PostgreSQL. The trade-off between MySQL and PostgreSQL is speed versus features. MySQL does not provide every known feature of a RDBMS. For example, it does not provide transactions and rollback. However, it is astonishingly fast when you set up your tables well. For me the speed of MySQL and its generally friendly features in terms of administration outweigh the more complete implementation of PostgreSQL. From mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us Mon Mar 27 10:50:34 2000 From: mtinberg at madison.tec.wi.us (Mark Tinberg) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:50:34 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Linux DBMS Message-ID: Well, you can really use Linux for everything but for databases look at MySQL and PostgreSQL, they are the big two SQL servers for Linux/*BSD/etc. MySQL is the more lightweight and it seems more used. Also be aware that most every other SQL server runs on Linux (Oracle 8i, Sybase, DB2, etc.) if you _really_ need some esoteric feature that these bigguns support. There are ODBC drivers available for all these and most programming languages support them directly (Perl, Python, Java, C, etc.) Since I am not really a database guy you should check out their websites. http://www.mysql.org and http://www.postgresql.org . >>> Subba Rao 03/27/00 10:35AM >>> In the e-Business arena, where are Linux servers being used? It looks like Linux is being used only for Web servers and development platforms. I am currently looking at using a DBMS server on a Linux system. Are Linux systems used as DBMS servers? If yes, what HW configuration would be recommended for a DBMS server for a e-Business application? Which DBMS systems perform well on Linux and are not resource hogs? Thanks for any input. Subba Rao subb3 at attglobal.net http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ => Time is relative. Here is a new way to look at time. <= http://www.smcinnovations.com _______________________________________________ Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug From Dean.Jefferson at oci.state.wi.us Mon Mar 27 11:17:38 2000 From: Dean.Jefferson at oci.state.wi.us (Jefferson, Dean) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:17:38 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Linux DBMS Message-ID: <832E8B37AD19D311839700508B2CF7D1197B36@exchange.oci.state.wi.us> I am in the process of installing an Oracle 8i database on Linux. I believe Oracle's announced (but not yet delivered) "database appliance" uses a Linux kernel to deliver maximum database bang for the buck. I am using a Compaq Proliant server with 4 CPU's, because that's what we bought for Oracle on NT. Your hardware requirements depend on how large a database you need to support and how fast it needs to be. If you want a DBMS that is not a resource hog, Oracle is not it. The idea with running Oracle on Linux is to minimize the OS overhead so Oracle can hog the whole machine! If your DBMS needs are more modest, try MySQL as the other answers to your post suggest. Dean Jefferson Dean.Jefferson at oci.state.wi.us > -----Original Message----- > From: Subba Rao [mailto:subb3 at attglobal.net] > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 10:36 AM > To: Madison Linux Users > Subject: [Madlug] Linux DBMS > > > > In the e-Business arena, where are Linux servers being used? > It looks like Linux is being used only for Web servers and development > platforms. > > I am currently looking at using a DBMS server on a Linux system. > Are Linux systems used as DBMS servers? If yes, what HW configuration > would be recommended for a DBMS server for a e-Business application? > > Which DBMS systems perform well on Linux and are not resource hogs? > > Thanks for any input. > > Subba Rao > subb3 at attglobal.net > http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ > > => Time is relative. Here is a new way to look at time. <= > http://www.smcinnovations.com > > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > From billf at inxpress.net Mon Mar 27 11:20:39 2000 From: billf at inxpress.net (Bill Fredrickson) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:20:39 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] [Fwd: [suse-announce-e] XFree86 4.0 for SuSE Linux available] Message-ID: <38DF9867.E7DE22F3@inxpress.net> Thought maybe some of you might find this interesting. Bill ================ Christian Egle wrote: > > Dear Linux user! > > We are proud to inform all XFree86 enthusiasts that the rpms of the very > latest XFree86 release 4.0 for SuSE Linux are now available for download > on SuSE?s ftp site ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/X/XFree86/XFree86-4.0-SuSE > > XFree86 4.0 is the first official release of the new XFree86 4. XFree86 4 > represents a significant redesign of the XFree86 X server. It is very > important to keep in mind that XFree86 4 is still very much in development, > and it contains a lot of new work. That means two things: there is a lot > of new exciting stuff to try, but being new code, it hasn't had nearly as > much of a workout as the stable 3.3.x releases. If you're looking for a > well-tested, stable release, and can't afford the inconveniences that new > software can sometimes cause, then you are probably better off sticking > with the 3.3.x releases for now. > > So please take care of the release notes > > ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/X/XFree86/XFree86-4.0-SuSE/RELNOTES > > and the readme > > ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/X/XFree86/XFree86-4.0-SuSE/README > > Have a lot of fun! > > Your SuSE team > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Christian Egle - SuSE GmbH - Schanzaeckerstr. 10 - 90443 Nuernberg > Tel.: +49-(0)911-7405331 Fax: +49-(0)911-7417755 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-announce-e-unsubscribe at suse.com > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-announce-e-help at suse.com From MTinberg at compuserve.com Tue Mar 28 19:31:22 2000 From: MTinberg at compuserve.com (Mark Tinberg) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:31:22 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Linux DBMS In-Reply-To: <20000327113549.A1352@attglobal.net> References: <20000327113549.A1352@attglobal.net> Message-ID: <00032819323500.12791@lordcyrix.raven667.org> It just so happens that this very topic is currently being discussed on slashdot. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/03/16/2151236&mode=nested On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Subba Rao wrote: > > Which DBMS systems perform well on Linux and are not resource hogs? -- Mark Tinberg MTinberg at compuserve.com Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! From jjacobsen at jvlnet.com Thu Mar 30 08:50:34 2000 From: jjacobsen at jvlnet.com (Jesse Jacobsen) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:50:34 +0000 Subject: [Madlug] Bresnan@home and (Debian) Linux Message-ID: <20000330145033.A26517@jvlnet.com> Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with Bresnan to share? How is it pricewise compared to DSL? Unfortunately, Ameritech says DSL is unavailable where I'm at -- barely unavailable. But I'm getting tired of dialup speeds. Granted, I've been at 33.6 for a while now, but I'd like more than just an incremental improvement. From what I've seen, ISDN is not really worth pursuing because it's more expensive than DSL and slower. I know I've seen a few posts about Bresnan before. I think Doug was one of the posters. Would you still recommend Bresnan at home? -- Jesse Jacobsen, Pastor jjacobsen at jvlnet.com Grace Lutheran Church (ELS) http://www.jvlnet.com/~jjacobsen/ Madison, Wisconsin GnuPG public key ID: 2E3EBF13 From dxf at dewittross.com Thu Mar 30 09:06:48 2000 From: dxf at dewittross.com (Daniell Freed) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:06:48 -0600 Subject: [Madlug] Bresnan@home and (Debian) Linux References: <20000330145033.A26517@jvlnet.com> Message-ID: <38E36D88.FB179FBB@dewittross.com> I have been using Bresnans at home since they introduced it last fall. Despite the rocky start last fall, I would still recommend using it. Some of the problems they have: --No offical Linux support, but linux still works fine with the service, they just won't help you set it up. --Their installers are not very reliable. I had to set it up pretty much on my own. I've seen this happen in one other case since mine as well. --Weird bug with mplayer that shows you having a really crappy ping. I don't know what this is all about, but it doesn't affect your game playing at all. The good stuff: --Very very fast. I get download speeds up to 200 KB (thats kiloBytes not bits) / sec. On average they tend to be closer to 120 -150 KB / sec from a decent site. --More or less static IP address. They say it is DHCP, but a tech on the phone told me that they almost never change your IP address. --reliable. I have only been down 2x in the last 6 months for an evening on each occasion, and on both occasions only email and their proxy servers where down. Everything else was OK. --Multiple email accounts at no extra charge. --not too expensive. $40 /month There are a few people here at work that have a DSL line through TCI and they like that as well. They are paying about $45 / month I think. They don't get static IP's and their download speed is on average slower (about 75 - 80 KB /sec), but their upload speeds seem to be better. I hope this helps. -- Daniell Freed Computer Services Dewitt, Ross, & Stevens He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. Beyond Good and Evil Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzche Jesse Jacobsen wrote: > > Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with Bresnan to share? How > is it pricewise compared to DSL? Unfortunately, Ameritech says DSL is > unavailable where I'm at -- barely unavailable. But I'm getting tired > of dialup speeds. Granted, I've been at 33.6 for a while now, but I'd > like more than just an incremental improvement. From what I've seen, > ISDN is not really worth pursuing because it's more expensive than DSL > and slower. > > I know I've seen a few posts about Bresnan before. I think Doug was > one of the posters. Would you still recommend Bresnan at home? > > -- > Jesse Jacobsen, Pastor jjacobsen at jvlnet.com > Grace Lutheran Church (ELS) http://www.jvlnet.com/~jjacobsen/ > Madison, Wisconsin GnuPG public key ID: 2E3EBF13 > > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug From matt at kindjal.net Thu Mar 30 09:30:37 2000 From: matt at kindjal.net (Matthew Callaway) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:30:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Madlug] Bresnan@home and (Debian) Linux In-Reply-To: <20000330145033.A26517@jvlnet.com> Message-ID: Hey Jesse, I have Bresnan at Home, and I can report my experiences with them, which are similar to Daniel's. Their techs are clueless. They barely know their windows stuff. You'll have to set it up on your own. They claim it's DHCP, but it's fully static if you know how to set it up. It's only DHCP if you tell it to be, and why would you? Basically, they give you an IP, and you use that forever. But most people use Windows, and to make it easy for the clueless, they just have you click the DHCP button to set that up, so it queries a DHCP server for an IP. Don't know why they do that. It's fast, but their networking people are missing something, because the routes they use are stupid. For example, if I traceroute to my office from my house, I follow this route: my house -> Chicago -> Philidelphia -> New York -> Philidelphia -> Chicago -> Madison -> my office I still get ping times around 50 ms for the round trip. Just think what it could be if the techs weren't.... well... I'll not throw stones. The cons are that the cable modems themselves are a bit touchy. You get into trouble if you want to do more than just be a quiet, normal user. For example, I've got a home network that I fiddle with. Sometimes I'd like to switch which machine acts as a router. But I can't do this because Bresnan's equipment remembers the MAC address of the NIC you're using, so if you switch NICs, you lose your connection. It takes a few days for it clear its cache, then the connection comes back up. But, really, everything works if you just set it up and leave it alone. I won't ever recommend Bresnan, because I've never had a good experience with them, TV, cable, or otherwise. But they're the only game in town right now if you live in the 'burbs and want fast internet access. If I had a choice, I'd take DSL in a heartbeat. I'm starting to ramble again, so I'll stop. :) Matt On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Jesse Jacobsen wrote: > Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with Bresnan to share? How > is it pricewise compared to DSL? Unfortunately, Ameritech says DSL is > unavailable where I'm at -- barely unavailable. But I'm getting tired > of dialup speeds. Granted, I've been at 33.6 for a while now, but I'd > like more than just an incremental improvement. From what I've seen, > ISDN is not really worth pursuing because it's more expensive than DSL > and slower. > > I know I've seen a few posts about Bresnan before. I think Doug was > one of the posters. Would you still recommend Bresnan at home? > > > -- > Jesse Jacobsen, Pastor jjacobsen at jvlnet.com > Grace Lutheran Church (ELS) http://www.jvlnet.com/~jjacobsen/ > Madison, Wisconsin GnuPG public key ID: 2E3EBF13 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug >