From shoemakerted at yahoo.com Sat Sep 1 20:02:29 2001 From: shoemakerted at yahoo.com (Ted and Robin Shoemaker) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Madlug] making PDF files Message-ID: <20010902010229.79760.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Is there a linux app that makes PDF files? (comparable to Distiller) ===== Ted Shoemaker -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version 3.12 GM>$ GO d- s:+ a+ C++ L+ W+++ N++ w M+(-) PE PS+(---) Y+ t+ 5++ X+ R-- tv+ b++++ D-- G e++>++++ h r+++ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From will at cs.wisc.edu Sat Sep 1 21:39:21 2001 From: will at cs.wisc.edu (Will McDonald) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 21:39:21 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] making PDF files In-Reply-To: <20010902010229.79760.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com>; from shoemakerted@yahoo.com on Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 06:02:29PM -0700 References: <20010902010229.79760.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010901213921.B23983@cs.wisc.edu> On Sat, 01 Sep 2001, Ted and Robin Shoemaker wrote: > Is there a linux app that makes PDF files? > (comparable to Distiller) pdftex, pdflatex (if you're into either of those), or ps2pdf for more general conversion (postscript->pdf). -- ---------Will McDonald-----------------will at upl.cs.wisc.edu--------- "Less Secure: 'Open source' means that anyone can get a copy of the source code. Developers can find security weaknesses very easily with Linux. The same is not true with Microsoft Windows." - Microsoft, February 2001 From bates at stat.wisc.edu Sat Sep 1 21:40:22 2001 From: bates at stat.wisc.edu (Douglas Bates) Date: 01 Sep 2001 21:40:22 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] making PDF files In-Reply-To: <20010902010229.79760.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010902010229.79760.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6rd75ab9ih.fsf@franz.stat.wisc.edu> Ted and Robin Shoemaker writes: > Is there a linux app that makes PDF files? > (comparable to Distiller) ps2pdf available with ghostscript (the gs package under Debian). From maxx931 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 2 13:11:50 2001 From: maxx931 at yahoo.com (josh benson) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 11:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Madlug] LILO Issues Message-ID: <20010902181150.82108.qmail@web12408.mail.yahoo.com> I'm having problems making my linux partition boot the problem is that HDA is a Windows HD and I use HDB for my linux needs. My bios lets me boot from any hd I pick on my PC. I want to set it up so that it will properly boot when I choose to boot from it, I'm gettting really sick of using a floppy to boot, cause when they go bad(and you know how fast they go bad) I cannot boot my Bios Partition. When I try to install lilo at install time I get a message I can't cause it's HDB and not HDA and when I try making my linux HD HDA and install lilo then switch it to slave on my system I can't properly boot cause it panics due to not being able to mount root. thanks, Josh P.S. I could have just said "anyone know how to make HDB boot properly?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From will at yogurt66.org Sun Sep 2 15:25:09 2001 From: will at yogurt66.org (Will Burn) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 15:25:09 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] making PDF's References: Message-ID: <3B9295A5.153EBAEB@yogurt66.org> There is also an HTML to PDF, I can not remember the name, but by searching on freshmeat.net I am sure that you can find it. Will From chris at clotho.com Sun Sep 2 22:25:01 2001 From: chris at clotho.com (Chris Dolan) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 22:25:01 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] making PDF's References: <3B9295A5.153EBAEB@yogurt66.org> Message-ID: <3B92F80D.2030404@clotho.com> Will Burn wrote: > There is also an HTML to PDF, I can not remember the name, but by > searching on freshmeat.net I am sure that you can find it. I believe you are referring to htmldoc. Chris Dolan From howland at danenet.wicip.org Mon Sep 3 02:18:01 2001 From: howland at danenet.wicip.org (Eric Howland) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 02:18:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Madlug] SuSE Linux Free for US High Schools (fwd) Message-ID: I did not see this on this list - perhaps the high school folks would be interested. Get the 7.1 manual & CD here, throw away the CD and download the 7.2 ISO's. I was interested that they had already done this in the spring for 2,500 copies. Do you think they have that many out of date copies when they went to 7.2? Not to look the gift horse in the mouth. . . Eric ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 14:08:34 -0700 (PDT) From: S. Kritikos To: CTCNet Cc: napoli at gnacademy.tzo.org Subject: SuSE Linux Free for US High Schools Folks, an interesting piece of news: SuSE Linux Free for US High Schools http://mozillaquest.com/Linux/SuSE_Linux_Free_4HS_01_Story_01.html The online application is at: http://www.suse.com/cgi-bin/schools.pl Regards S. (Sam) Kritikos From jiml at slh.wisc.edu Mon Sep 3 09:14:46 2001 From: jiml at slh.wisc.edu (James E. Leinweber) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 09:14:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Madlug] LILO Issues In-Reply-To: (madlug-request@madisonlinux.org) Message-ID: <200109031414.JAA02920@slh.wisc.edu> > I'm having problems making my linux partition boot > the problem is that HDA is a Windows HD and I use HDB > for my linux needs... This shouldn't be that hard; I've been doing things like it since '93. E.g. on one recently installed system where the build guy put nothing on hda, CD-ROM on hdb, and two disks on hdc and hdd we're using the following sort of stuff in /etc/lilo.conf boot=/dev/hdc map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b prompt timeout=500 message=/boot/message linear default=linux image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.3-slh label=linux read-only root=/dev/hdd1 It boots just fine off the second disk. All it should take for you is: a) boot=/dev/hda b) root=/dev/hdb1 (or whatever) You do have to watch out for "virus protection" BIOS features which disable writes to the MBR. Personally, I prefer Grub for booting these days. But LILO still works. -- James E. Leinweber Information Systems - State Laboratory of Hygiene - University of Wisconsin 465 Henry Mall, Madison WI 53706-1578 USA +1 608 262 0736 From richardaries at xena.com Mon Sep 3 11:32:26 2001 From: richardaries at xena.com (Richard Aries) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 09:32:26 -0700 Subject: [Madlug] Brief Discussion of Publishing Tools Message-ID: <200109031632.JAA14030@mail24.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://www.madisonlinux.org/pipermail/madlug/attachments/20010903/c2d437d6/attachment.txt From spkraus1 at students.wisc.edu Mon Sep 3 21:14:23 2001 From: spkraus1 at students.wisc.edu (Steven P. Krause) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 21:14:23 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] Reminder: meeting Friday; and a question -- ftp mirrors Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010903210421.009fcb90@students.wisc.edu> First: I'd like to remind folks that there is a business meeting at Steep & Brew this Friday; the 'agenda' (such as it is) is on the madlug website. Second: I have a question about a few Linux mirrors on campus. I recently tried to do an FTP install of Redhat 7.1 from both the CS (mirror.cs.wisc.edu) and SIT (mirror.sit.wisc.edu) mirrors. I was able to connect at first (read packages, get through package selection, etc.), but when it came to installation my machine wouldn't connect and download any of the packages -- it just stalled. One of the virtual consols indicated that it couldn't connect to the ftp site. I am on a TDS DSL connection. The same machine then had no problem doing a CD-Rom install of 6.2, so I doubt my machine is the problem. Has anyone else used these sites to install 7.1? Is the image for the network boot floppy buggy? Just curious, --Steve From urbanlee at home.com Tue Sep 4 21:02:07 2001 From: urbanlee at home.com (Lee Urbanski) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 21:02:07 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] authentication failed - cannot start X server. Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010904205356.00bbfea0@mail.mdsn1.wi.home.com> I didn't think that I had changed anything. But I must have changed something. Whenever I try to startx I get the following error message: Authentication failed - cannot start X server. Perhaps you do not have console ownership?_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 61 giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 61) unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. root is the only user who can successfully startx. Anybody know how to fix this? Lee From dave at weccusa.org Wed Sep 5 15:21:12 2001 From: dave at weccusa.org (David W. Jablonski) Date: 05 Sep 2001 15:21:12 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] authentication failed - cannot start X server. In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010904205356.00bbfea0@mail.mdsn1.wi.home.com> References: <4.2.2.20010904205356.00bbfea0@mail.mdsn1.wi.home.com> Message-ID: <999721272.15923.28.camel@opiate.weccusa.org> On 04 Sep 2001 21:02:07 -0500, Lee Urbanski wrote: > I didn't think that I had changed anything. But I must have changed > something. Whenever I try to startx I get the following error message: > > Authentication failed - cannot start X server. > Perhaps you do not have console > ownership?_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 61 > giving up. > xinit: Connection refused (errno 61) unable to connect to X server > xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. > > root is the only user who can successfully startx. Anybody know how to fix > this? > Lee > Check you /etc/pam.d/xserver file and look for anything goofy. It should be just: #%PAM-1.0 auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_rootok.so auth required /lib/security/pam_console.so account required /lib/security/pam_permit.so You also might want to look at your /etc/security/console.perms to see what permissions the xconsole has for /dev/console which for me is root.root 0600 /dev/console. Also there is usually a lock file in /var/lock/console and /var/lock/console.lock that maybe has a lock on the console. I'm throwing up straws here since I'm not sure. I would start reading man pages on pam_console and things and you'll probably work it out. -- David W. Jablonski, RHCE, MCSE Systems Administrator http://www.weccusa.org http://www.energyfinancesolutions.com From howland at danenet.wicip.org Wed Sep 5 19:56:00 2001 From: howland at danenet.wicip.org (Eric Howland) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:56:00 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Madlug] Collaborations? Message-ID: I was wondering if folks would be interested in one of a couple of opportunities. This is partly prompted by an email a few weeks ago in which someone suggested crating a MadLug project 1. The CommunityIT/PC Users group is going to have a chance to make some presentations at the Itec conference this year on October 24-25, 2001 (I think the presentations will all be on the 25th). I was wondering if anyone from MadLug would be interested in making Linux oriented presentations. Last year the presentations were not publicized in the booklet and few people came, but this year there is a concerted effort to get in the printed program. There will definitely be a presentation about the CommunityIT projects in which MadLug is a partner (a big tip of the trouble shooting hat to Mark for helping disabuse me of some preconceptions about a Cisco router Charter included with Habitat for Humanities' ReStore cable service). If MadLug (as a group or as individuals) would like to stand up as part of that presentation you are more than welcome. Additionally if someone wanted to talk about other Linux topics that would be of interest to IT professionals in town (and subtly advertise your or your company's expertise) it would be great. An example could be something like "Internet security using Linux" or "Open source servers" or whatever. The person coordinating these presentations is Roger Tesch who is getting a CC of this message. In order to get into the printed program Roger needs to know this week (sorry about the short notice - I just discovered the deadline). If you have a 2-3 sentence description that could get printed along with the title. 2. I was talking to the folks at Vera Court Community Center. They, as all social service agencies, are interested in tracking the number of people who use their facilities. This struck me as an ideal project for a Linux box and a CueCat scanner to create an appliance scanning/recording device. In their case, they have paper cards which the kids use to sign up a computer. They could print out bar codes which would go on the cards (with anonymous numbers?) and the Linux box could read the scans, time stamp them and then put them in a database (or flat-file) which could be analyzed by any number of methods to give what the field calls duplicated and unduplicated people using their facilities. I just looked up the CueCat-on-Linux site(s) and see: http://oss.lineo.com/cuecat/ for those of you who want to get into embeded linux http://nc.flyingbuttmonkeys.com/foocat/ which has hardware mods and a Scheme decoder among other things http://freshmeat.net/projects/gnu-barcode. for printing bar codes In general, these all point to each other. It seems there is a module for the 2.4 kernel as well as official? major and minor numbers. Not only that but I see that there are ps2, serial and USB versions of the CueCat which this module supports. I lost track back when they all plugged in line with the keyboard. I called Radio Shack and they are still giving away the CueCats if you provide a name and address. I did not know at that point to ask what protocol they support. It seems from the news that the company (Digital Convergence) is not out of buisiness yet. Still if we want to get them in several community centers we might not want to count on the company being in buisness for long. (but also see Oode and Beeline on http://nc.flyingbuttmonkeys.com/foocat/) 3. This third idea is less organized, but I was intreagued by the Linux for Kids site (http://www.linuxforkids.org/mission.html) I was thinking of this as an evangelism project. Many public places (afterschool places, daycare etc) do not know about the availability of free games etc that are availible on Linux. So to make a point, I was thinking of making a standalone workstation (am I getting in a rut here) and loading it up with interesting kid stuff (maybe organized by age - I cannot find my link to the preschool window manager) and putting it someplace where lots of kids go (community center, daycare [for young ones], etc) and see how it works/survives. If it turns into a hit we burn a working CD (they offer a CD of tarballs on the linuxforkids page) and distribute to intrested places. I will try to come to the Friday meeting to see if there is any interest in these ideas, however I think that if you want to make a presentation it would be good to contact Roger before then. Eric From scayford at terracom.net Wed Sep 5 21:04:32 2001 From: scayford at terracom.net (Steve Cayford) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:04:32 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] Collaborations? In-Reply-To: ; from howland@danenet.wicip.org on Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 19:56:00 -0500 References: Message-ID: <20010905210432.A4266@isaiah.tds.net> What's the Itec conference? -Steve On 2001.09.05 19:56:00 -0500 Eric Howland wrote: > > I was wondering if folks would be interested in one of a couple of > opportunities. This is partly prompted by an email a few weeks ago in > which someone suggested crating a MadLug project > > 1. The CommunityIT/PC Users group is going to have a chance to make some > presentations at the Itec conference this year on October 24-25, 2001 (I > think the presentations will all be on the 25th). <- snipped -> From hardburn at runbox.com Thu Sep 6 10:29:18 2001 From: hardburn at runbox.com (Timm Murray) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 15:29:18 GMT Subject: [Madlug] Collaborations? Message-ID: > 2. I was talking to the folks at Vera Court Community Center. They, as all > social service agencies, are interested in tracking the number of people > who use their facilities. This struck me as an ideal project for a Linux > box and a CueCat scanner to create an appliance scanning/recording device. > In their case, they have paper cards which the kids use to sign up a > computer. They could print out bar codes which would go on the cards > (with anonymous numbers?) and the Linux box could read the scans, time > stamp them and then put them in a database (or flat-file) which could be > analyzed by any number of methods to give what the field calls duplicated > and unduplicated people using their facilities. > > I just looked up the CueCat-on-Linux site(s) and see: > > http://oss.lineo.com/cuecat/ > for those of you who want to get into embeded linux > http://nc.flyingbuttmonkeys.com/foocat/ > which has hardware mods and a Scheme decoder among other things > http://freshmeat.net/projects/gnu-barcode. > for printing bar codes > > In general, these all point to each other. It seems there is a module for > the 2.4 kernel as well as official? major and minor numbers. Not only that > but I see that there are ps2, serial and USB versions of the CueCat which > this module supports. I lost track back when they all plugged in line with > the keyboard. I called Radio Shack and they are still giving away the > CueCats if you provide a name and address. I did not know at that point to > ask what protocol they support. I don't know much about the CueCat, except what I've read in 2600 articles. Does the kernel module have the nasty anti-privacy stuff that the Windows software does (I would think not, but I thougt I would ask)? If so, it's easy enough to disable (the recent 2600 has an article about doing this). > > It seems from the news that the company (Digital Convergence) is not out > of buisiness yet. Still if we want to get them in several community > centers we might not want to count on the company being in buisness for > long. (but also see Oode and Beeline on http://nc.flyingbuttmonkeys.com/foocat/) > > 3. This third idea is less organized, but I was intreagued by the Linux > for Kids site (http://www.linuxforkids.org/mission.html) I was thinking > of this as an evangelism project. Many public places (afterschool places, > daycare etc) do not know about the availability of free games etc that are > availible on Linux. So to make a point, I was thinking of making a > standalone workstation (am I getting in a rut here) and loading it up with > interesting kid stuff (maybe organized by age - I cannot find my link to > the preschool window manager) and putting it someplace where lots of kids > go (community center, daycare [for young ones], etc) and see how it > works/survives. If it turns into a hit we burn a working CD (they offer a > CD of tarballs on the linuxforkids page) and distribute to intrested > places. Intresting. If they're planning on getting several computers, they might be able to save money by having remote X terminals instead of individual computers. See ltsp.org for information on this. This might be a nice project to pass off to the Computer Club, as the members involved might get Service-E points for it (which look nice on college applications). ----------------------------------------------- Runbox Mail Manager - www.runbox.com Free online email application From will at yogurt66.org Mon Sep 3 13:47:15 2001 From: will at yogurt66.org (Will Burn) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 13:47:15 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] Lilo issues References: Message-ID: <3B93D033.4188BE73@yogurt66.org> Perhaps I misunderstood, but why/how are you booting to your BIOS from a floppy? The only way I can see that is via a flashimage or maybe on older compaq systems through the softpaq BIOS on the hard drive.(which in "normal" terms that still doesn't make sense) other than that, I would say that you need to look at your /etc/lilo.conf, which usually writes to the MBR or First Boot Record, depending on which you choose when you install and configure it. Also it depends on which Windows Release you are using, there are great how-tos on dual booting on linuxdoc.org. Hope that helps. Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 11:11:50 -0700 (PDT) From: josh benson To: madlug at madisonlinux.org Subject: [Madlug] LILO Issues I'm having problems making my linux partition boot the problem is that HDA is a Windows HD and I use HDB for my linux needs. My bios lets me boot from any hd I pick on my PC. I want to set it up so that it will properly boot when I choose to boot from it, I'm gettting really sick of using a floppy to boot, cause when they go bad(and you know how fast they go bad) I cannot boot my Bios Partition. When I try to install lilo at install time I get a message I can't cause it's HDB and not HDA and when I try making my linux HD HDA and install lilo then switch it to slave on my system I can't properly boot cause it panics due to not being able to mount root. thanks, Josh P.S. I could have just said "anyone know how to make HDB boot properly?" From richardaries at xena.com Thu Sep 6 12:37:23 2001 From: richardaries at xena.com (Richard Aries) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 10:37:23 -0700 Subject: [Madlug] Tech jobs Message-ID: <200109061737.KAA14198@mail9.bigmailbox.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://www.madisonlinux.org/pipermail/madlug/attachments/20010906/29fc6d45/attachment.txt From tinberg at securepipe.com Fri Sep 7 20:40:52 2001 From: tinberg at securepipe.com (Mark Tinberg) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 20:40:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Madlug] Invitation: Saturday September 8th, evening party (fwd) Message-ID: For anyone who is interested. . . The Great Dane is just off the SE corner of The Square about a block away from the parking ramp. We'll be the ones drinking Guiness and crowding suspiciously around a laptop. Hope to see some of you there! -- Mark Tinberg Network Security Engineer SecurePipe, Inc. -- Managed Network Security Services Remember: Wherever you go, there you are! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Martin A. Brown Subject: Invitation: Saturday September 8th, evening party Just a note to say that the party will begin by about 18:30 at the Great Dane. Once again, please feel free to invite anybody you'd like to bring with you. -Martin -- Martin A. Brown --- SecurePipe, Inc. --- mabrown at securepipe.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Martin A. Brown Subject: Invitation: Saturday September 8th, evening party Please consider this an invitation to a party on Saturday evening at the Great Dane. This party has a purpose. Please check your reason at the door. We are celebrating the roll-over from [ 9 digits of 9 ] seconds since the UN*X epoch ( 999999999 seconds since January 1 1970 ) to 1.0 x 10^9 seconds since the UN*X epoch. (see below) In case you hadn't notice, the premise is tenuous at best, but should provide us with a good reason to meet and drink. Any and all friends, relatives, and beer-swilling compatriots are invited and welcome. There is no need to RSVP, and Matthew will be bringing an NTP synchronized laptop along to provide the official countdown for us. -Martin $ date +%s --date='20:46:39 Sep 8' 999999999 $ date +%s --date='20:46:40 Sep 8' 1000000000 -- Martin A. Brown --- SecurePipe, Inc. --- mabrown at securepipe.com From hardburn at runbox.com Sun Sep 9 16:09:27 2001 From: hardburn at runbox.com (Timm Murray) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 16:09:27 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] Voting Message-ID: <001c01c13973$b8553a20$e25100cf@monitor> At the buisness meeting last friday, some attention was brought to how members could vote when it is impossible for them to attend the meeting at a certain date. Many asked about how people's votes could be kept anoynmous when it's done over e-mail and such. This morning I remebered that GNU has a project for writing GPL'd election software. Check out http://www.free-project.org/. If this doesn't work for us, I have read over a number of secure electronic election proposals and it shouldn't be too hard to create an e-mail or web based interface to one. If you are intrested in this, check out the seminal work "Applied Cryptography", which lists several such proposals. If you don't want to spend the money on yet another book, "secure election" on Google should turn up something good. From shoemakerted at yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 21:55:25 2001 From: shoemakerted at yahoo.com (Ted and Robin Shoemaker) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Madlug] a variety of questions Message-ID: <20010911025525.90073.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> A variety of questions: 1. I did something, I don't know what, to lose the graphical link (icon) to the windows partition from my KDE2 desktop. How do I get it back? 2. When I replaced my PS2 mouse with a serial-plug mouse, my linux system doesn't see the new mouse. That means that I can't do a graphical login. How, from a text login, can I update the mouse driver? 3. Here's the tough one. I have Corel Photopaint 9 for linux. The "Help" feature on it is somehow disabled. When I click on the "Help" button, I get the following: First, a blank Netscape window which shows the URL as: file:/usr/doc/graphics9help/default/paint9_linux/photopnt.htm.gz Second, a window labeled Netscape: subprocess diagnostics (stdout/stderr) on which is: about 20 lines of HTML and JavaScript then << stderr diagnostics have been truncated >> then "OK" button When I try to gunzip the .htm.gz file named above, I get the error message "permission denied", even when I am logged in as root. Any ideas? I have already posted this on the more appropriate newsgroup (i.e. Photopaint) and have tried to contact Corel. That was a few weeks ago. So far, I have no answer from wither of them. I intend to re-post those requests. Does anyone know how to read the Help feature? 4. If anyone knows of a how-to site on the web for Corel Photopaint 9, please let me know. In case it matters, I am using SuSE 7.1. Thank you! ===== Ted Shoemaker -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version 3.12 GM>$ GO d- s:+ a+ C++ L+ W+++ N++ w M+(-) PE PS+(---) Y+ t+ 5++ X+ R-- tv+ b++++ D-- G e++>++++ h r+++ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From ajschumache2 at students.wisc.edu Mon Sep 10 23:44:27 2001 From: ajschumache2 at students.wisc.edu (Aaron Schumacher) Date: 10 Sep 2001 23:44:27 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] a variety of questions In-Reply-To: <20010911025525.90073.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010911025525.90073.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1000183467.4058.26.camel@wushu> Hello! I'm Aaron Schumacher, UW Madison student, new-ish list subscriber. Hopefully I have sent this message to the correct addresses... Possibly I can be helpful? > 1. I did something, I don't know what, to lose the graphical link (icon) > to the windows partition from my KDE2 desktop. How do I get it back? I'm no expert on kde (I use gnome), but I logged into my kde 2.1.2 installation (slackware 8.0) to figure this out. Assuming that your windows partition is still correctly set up in your '/etc/fstab', this isn't really all that hard. Here's the procedure I used: 1. right click on destop area 2. select 'create new CDROM device' (seems screwy, doesn't it?) 3. make some changes in the dialog that appears; the name, the icon (mounted and unmounted) should probably look like a hard disk or something, not a CD, etc. 4. in the 'device' tab, use the pull-down to select your windows partition 5. finish 'er up, and it should work So basically the trick there is using the counter-intuitive CDROM link creation tool. Note: my windows partitions are mounted on boot up, but I don't think that should affect this process. Further, this question reminded me a little bit of an article I read at this address: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html but I come up against the whole "he who is without sin throw the first stone" issue, so there's the answer, plain as day. :) > 2. When I replaced my PS2 mouse with a serial-plug mouse, my linux system > doesn't see the new mouse. That means that I can't do a graphical login. > How, from a text login, can I update the mouse driver? Please note: these are just my musings at this point. I think I recall from my SuSE using experiences that there is a special X setup utility from the SuSE people... vax or vax2, I believe. You could try that. If you just need the mouse in X, X is the only thing you need to re-fiddle, I think. You could just crack open your '/etc/X11/XF86Config' and change the line Option "Protocol" "PS/2" to something like Option "Protocol" "serial" but be careful with that, because I just made up the "serial" bit, because it seems like what it ought to be. Upon thinking for half a second, it occurs to me that you should probably disregard the above suggestions and go read this howto: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/3-Button-Mouse.html which will probably help you more than I can. > 3. Here's the tough one. > I have Corel Photopaint 9 for linux. The "Help" feature on it is somehow > disabled. I was actually lucky enough to come across a couple of links that I think could be incredibly useful to you: http://gimp.org/ http://manual.gimp.org/ http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/index.html ;) But really, I don't know anything about photopaint. Sorry. - Aaron Schumacher From hardburn at runbox.com Tue Sep 11 08:50:57 2001 From: hardburn at runbox.com (Timm Murray) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:50:57 GMT Subject: [Madlug] a variety of questions Message-ID: > > A variety of questions: > > 1. I did something, I don't know what, to lose the graphical link (icon) > to the windows partition from my KDE2 desktop. How do I get it back? > > 2. When I replaced my PS2 mouse with a serial-plug mouse, my linux system > doesn't see the new mouse. That means that I can't do a graphical login. > How, from a text login, can I update the mouse driver? This depends on a few things. In your XF86Config file, is it pointing to /dev/mouse as the device for the mouse? If so, you just need to update the link. Do (as root): cd /dev rm mouse ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/mouse Replace "/dev/ttyS0" with the correct serial port your mouse is on. ttyS0 == COM1 in DOS, ttyS1 == COM2, etc. If XF86Config is not pointing to /dev/mouse, you need to change it to the correct serial port. Actualy, I would suggest pointing it to /dev/mouse and then doing the link thing as above. ----------------------------------------------- Runbox Mail Manager - www.runbox.com Free online email application From spkraus1 at students.wisc.edu Wed Sep 12 11:28:50 2001 From: spkraus1 at students.wisc.edu (Steve Krause) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:28:50 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] Next Business Meeting Message-ID: <4.1.20010912112558.00a90390@students.wisc.edu> Just a reminder that we have a meeting scheduled for Tuesday, September 18, at 7pm in the Comp. Sci. building. We will be in room 1221. It's a business meeting, and we'll hold elections. For more information, please see the minutes to last Friday's meeting (on the website). Sincerely, Steve Krause From tanner_g_schultz at yahoo.com Thu Sep 13 07:51:44 2001 From: tanner_g_schultz at yahoo.com (Tanner Schultz) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Madlug] MEETING REMINDER Message-ID: <20010913125144.50486.qmail@web13005.mail.yahoo.com> The meeting will take place at its standard time and place (7:00PM, Steep n' brew), for those choosing to attend. This will be a regular coffe house tech chat meeting. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From hardburn at runbox.com Thu Sep 13 08:41:00 2001 From: hardburn at runbox.com (Timm Murray) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:41:00 GMT Subject: [Madlug] MEETING REMINDER Message-ID: Might I suggest that this week we discuss ways to get to the top of Google's list for the search "wumpus". Our meeting minutes for the July 6, 2001 meeting are already at the only thing that comes up for "wumpus madlug", but that is to be expected. > The meeting will take place at its standard time and > place (7:00PM, Steep n' brew), for those choosing to > attend. This will be a regular coffe house tech chat meeting. > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > From aaronschumacher at yahoo.com Thu Sep 13 09:23:17 2001 From: aaronschumacher at yahoo.com (Aaron Schumacher) Date: 13 Sep 2001 09:23:17 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] MEETING REMINDER In-Reply-To: <20010913125144.50486.qmail@web13005.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010913125144.50486.qmail@web13005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1000390998.6031.23.camel@wushu> Sorry if I'm the only one not following this... I have one email that says: > we have a meeting scheduled for Tuesday, September 18, > at 7pm in the Comp. Sci. building. We will be in room 1221. And another email that says: > The meeting will take place at its standard time and > place (7:00PM, Steep n' brew), The madisonlinux.org web site agrees with the former, for now anyway... So, when and where is the meeting actually going to be? Thanks! - Aaron Schumacher _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From spkraus1 at students.wisc.edu Thu Sep 13 09:39:49 2001 From: spkraus1 at students.wisc.edu (Steve Krause) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:39:49 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] MEETING REMINDER In-Reply-To: <1000390998.6031.23.camel@wushu> References: <20010913125144.50486.qmail@web13005.mail.yahoo.com> <20010913125144.50486.qmail@web13005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4.1.20010913093647.00a8f3b0@students.wisc.edu> Aaron, There *IS* a business meeting Tuesday the 18th at 7pm (CS building room 1221); it was scheduled last Friday at the Steep & Brew meeting. I'm doing my best to keep the website up-to-date, and the information there is correct. --Steve At 09:23 AM 9/13/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Sorry if I'm the only one not following this... > >I have one email that says: >> we have a meeting scheduled for Tuesday, September 18, >> at 7pm in the Comp. Sci. building. We will be in room 1221. > >And another email that says: >> The meeting will take place at its standard time and >> place (7:00PM, Steep n' brew), > >The madisonlinux.org web site agrees with the former, for now anyway... > >So, when and where is the meeting actually going to be? > >Thanks! > >- Aaron Schumacher From arzamendi at berbee.com Thu Sep 13 12:30:46 2001 From: arzamendi at berbee.com (Peter Arzamendi) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:30:46 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] mkinitrd question Message-ID: I just recently install a scsi hard drive in my pc. I now want to upgrade my kernel. I can build everything just fine, but then I try to build the scsi image with mkinitrd I receive the following error "All of your loopback devices are in use!". Is there a way I can free a loopback device or create another one? thanks, Pete From aaronschumacher at yahoo.com Thu Sep 13 13:01:35 2001 From: aaronschumacher at yahoo.com (Aaron Schumacher) Date: 13 Sep 2001 13:01:35 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] mkinitrd question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1000404097.6033.30.camel@wushu> I don't want to seem incredibly ignorant (I may be way off base here), but if it was me I would build scsi support into my kernel (not as a module, which is what I gather you've done). I think you really shouldn't need to use 'mkinitrd' at all. - Aaron On Thu, 2001-09-13 at 12:30, Peter Arzamendi wrote: > I just recently install a scsi hard drive in my pc. I now want to upgrade my > kernel. I can build everything just fine, but then I try to build the scsi > image with mkinitrd I receive the following error "All of your loopback > devices are in use!". Is there a way I can free a loopback device or create > another one? > > thanks, > Pete > > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From matt at kindjal.net Thu Sep 13 13:11:00 2001 From: matt at kindjal.net (Matthew Callaway) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:11:00 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Madlug] mkinitrd question In-Reply-To: <1000404097.6033.30.camel@wushu> Message-ID: I too would build scsi into the kernel. Supporting initrd is just too big a hassle to save some kernel size. But, to free up a loopback device use: for i in `seq 0 8`; do losetup -d /dev/loop$i done If this doesn't work, reboot. If that doesn't work, are you sure you have loop support in the kernel? Check that the module is loaded. Matt On 13 Sep 2001, Aaron Schumacher wrote: > I don't want to seem incredibly ignorant (I may be way off base here), > but if it was me I would build scsi support into my kernel (not as a > module, which is what I gather you've done). I think you really > shouldn't need to use 'mkinitrd' at all. > > - Aaron > > > On Thu, 2001-09-13 at 12:30, Peter Arzamendi wrote: > > I just recently install a scsi hard drive in my pc. I now want to upgrade my > > kernel. I can build everything just fine, but then I try to build the scsi > > image with mkinitrd I receive the following error "All of your loopback > > devices are in use!". Is there a way I can free a loopback device or create > > another one? > > > > thanks, > > Pete > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Madlug mailing list - Madlug at madisonlinux.org > http://www.madisonlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/madlug > From superdug at dugnet.com Thu Sep 13 13:56:50 2001 From: superdug at dugnet.com (SuperDuG) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:56:50 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] So there's a meeting tonight or tomorrow. Message-ID: <002701c13c85$d8eb49e0$d4910a41@mdsn1.wi.home.com> I would really like to get to know people in the group ... Place, Time, Directions would be greatly appreciated SuperDuG From spkraus1 at students.wisc.edu Thu Sep 13 14:40:19 2001 From: spkraus1 at students.wisc.edu (Steve Krause) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:40:19 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] So there's a meeting tonight or tomorrow. In-Reply-To: <002701c13c85$d8eb49e0$d4910a41@mdsn1.wi.home.com> Message-ID: <4.1.20010913142829.00ab0a08@students.wisc.edu> SuperDuG, We'd love to see you at our meeting. Next Tuesday, the 18th, at 7pm we'll have a meeting in room 1221 of the CS building. Directions for getting to the CS building, as well as regarding parking, are available on the MadLUG website (www.madisonlinux.org) -- see the "meeting agenda" page. --Steve At 01:56 PM 9/13/2001 -0500, you wrote: >I would really like to get to know people in the group ... > >Place, Time, Directions would be greatly appreciated > > >SuperDuG From tanner_g_schultz at yahoo.com Thu Sep 13 20:47:20 2001 From: tanner_g_schultz at yahoo.com (Tanner Schultz) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Madlug] MEETING REMINDER 2.0 Message-ID: <20010914014720.80070.qmail@web13003.mail.yahoo.com> In addition to the buisness meeting on tuesday, there is a non-buisness coffe house meeting at the regular time and place (steep n' brew, Friday, 7:00pm, directions on website i think), for those choosing to attend. Again, BUISNESS TUESDAY, COFFE TOMARROW. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From jmjaco at home.com Thu Sep 13 21:55:53 2001 From: jmjaco at home.com (Jesse Jacobsen) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:55:53 -0500 Subject: [Madlug] Meeting tomorrow [sorry, got long] Message-ID: <20010913215553.A12175@strider> How about having a mini keysigning party while we're at Steep 'n Brew? There should be a few of us who are capable of using GnuPG and who like the possibility of private email, etc. In case you haven't looked yet, there's been a 2-part article on GnuPG in the last 2 Linux Journal issues. In case you're unfamiliar, here's an explanation: When using GnuPG and other public-key encryption, you have to establish a level of trust that the public keys in your keyring really belong to those they claim to belong to. Otherwise, it would be possible for for a malicious poseur named "Boris" to send you something signed with a key supposedly owned by your good friend Rocky, thereby deceiving you about the origin of the message! Worse, you could use that key to encrypt something to Rocky, but instead, it would be intercepted and read by Boris! So to use this valuable privacy tool, we *need* to verify one another's keys in-person and sign them to create a "web of trust." (See lots of documentation on what all this means if you're confused.) Since we don't have a vast number of people, and many probably aren't interested in signing keys, here's what I'll do (and suggest for others): - print a few copies of my key's fingerprint and identification. This is output with `gpg --fingerprint